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BREAKING NEWS Assassin's three chilling words on bullets left behind after shooting UnitedHealthcare CEO in brazen Manhattan attack
Daily Mail UK ^ | December 5, 2024 | Joe Hutchison

Posted on 12/04/2024 9:40:18 PM PST by Morgana

Detectives investigating the murder of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson reportedly found shell casings with the words 'deny', 'defend' and 'depose' inscribed on them.

Police sources told ABC News that casings were found at the scene with the cryptic messages left on them.

Detectives are now working to determine what the words mean and if they could possibly hint at a motive for the slaying of the 50-year-old.

Officers are still searching for the unknown assailant who gunned down Thompson outside of the Hilton Hotel in Manhattan on Wednesday morning.

Authorities say he fled the scene on foot before then making a getaway on an electric bike into nearby Central Park.

Surveillance footage of the shooting shows Thompson walking alone outside of the entrance to the midtown hotel when the gunman steps into frame and opens fire.

The masked killer draws out a large gun fitted with a silencer and shots him in the back, sending the CEO stumbling down the street.

Several bystanders were seen in the footage witnessing the horror shooting, with one woman standing mere feet away from the gunman when he opened fire.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ABC News reported Wednesday night that the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” were written on the casings found at the scene, citing law enforcement sources.

So says a tweet. I will look for the original source at ABC.


81 posted on 12/05/2024 4:03:49 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: Morgana
How many people have been shot and killed in NY or any city but everyone is acting like this murder is something special like it’s out of the ordinary.

According to what I see on tv murder is a popular way to solve many problems. In popular fiction on the bookshelves scores of people get mowed down to push a story along.

What makes this murder so special, why all the fuss?
82 posted on 12/05/2024 4:07:08 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: Doctor Congo

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-killed-what-we-know-hnk/index.html
The words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” were found on the shell casings discovered at the scene of the shooting


83 posted on 12/05/2024 4:10:05 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: Nervous Tick

Yeah, I’m guessing he forceloaded the slide knowing the silencer would mess up the loading mechanism and since two shots cycled after firing he ended up ejecting unfired bullets


84 posted on 12/05/2024 4:13:13 AM PST by struggle
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To: Doctor Congo

From a tweet, ChatGPT was asked about the three words:

The phrase “Deny, Defend, Depose” is not widely recognized as a slogan. However, it appears in legal contexts, particularly in discussions about insurance companies’ strategies for handling claims. This approach involves denying the claim, defending against it in court, and deposing the claimant during litigation. For example, the book Delay, Deny, Defend by Jay M. Feinman examines such tactics used by insurance companies.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeA4viQa0AEY5fc?format=jpg&name=large


85 posted on 12/05/2024 4:14:33 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: Kipp


"silencing or threatening others about potential testimony"


That is what I was thinking.
86 posted on 12/05/2024 4:31:30 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Larry Lucido

A BYSTANDER RAN AWAY AT THE FIRST SHOT!! ON VIDEO!


87 posted on 12/05/2024 4:34:05 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NautiNurse

He and his wife live in SEPARATE HOMES??? No WONDER she didn’t seem so upset! hmmmm


88 posted on 12/05/2024 4:37:44 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Morgana

Hadn’t met deductible yet...$6,000 to go.


89 posted on 12/05/2024 4:52:31 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Blue Highway

Yes be did say that. Jesse Waters even changed his viewpoint over that
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I see references to Jesse Waters fairly often, but the news commentator’s surname actually is Watters.


90 posted on 12/05/2024 4:56:55 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Never forget, the Marxist-Democrats & RINOs who would destroy our country ARE STILL HERE!)
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To: YeahBuddy

“The totality of all these circumstances doesn’t add up to a “pro” for me.”

2 tells for me:

1. Stance/footplacement..not that of a skilled pistol shooter;

2. Ditto for extended but bent at elbow right arm.


91 posted on 12/05/2024 4:58:53 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: NautiNurse
Thank you. 2 is an unfired centerfire cartridge. One would suppose it's a 9mm but can't be sure without picking it up and looking at it.

3 is either another unfired cartridge or an empty. Can't tell for sure because it's not facing bullet end toward the camera. However, it appears to be another unfired cartridge because there is no visible hammer dent on the primer. Again, gotta pick it up and look at it to be sure.

In one's humble opinion, this suggests an inexperienced shooter fumbling around with a weapon he's not experienced with. Previous posters have said he was using an oddball thing called a "Welrod", whatever that is... which requires each round to be manually cycled.

Question, is a "Welrod" something that someone in a blue city might acquire, to get around local restrictions on semiauto firearms? Why not just get a revolver instead?

Anyway my original opinion is changed. Not a professional job, like the famous (at least here in my locale) Roger Wheeler case in Tulsa OK back in the 80's where Telex executive Mr. Wheeler was unfortunately assassinated by a northeastern gangkster named Whitey Bulger in the parking lot at Southern Hills country club, using a Ruger Mark II .22 semiauto pistol fitted with a silencer. (Whitey was eventually caught and sent away forever despite his professionalism as an assassin.)

One could speculate about this guy's reasons, but his execution, as cold-blooded murders go, was kinda odd... but you know what they say, criminals tend to be stupid...

92 posted on 12/05/2024 4:59:25 AM PST by OKSooner (Nucular combat, toe to toe with the Rooskies! )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Photo shows unfired centerfire rounds on the pavement...not 22 rimfires.


93 posted on 12/05/2024 5:03:21 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: OKSooner

Not a pro job. I agree. Too many detail items he missed.


94 posted on 12/05/2024 5:09:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Morgana

“and if they could possibly hint at a motive for the slaying of the 50-year-old. “

How many murders in NYC have they found shell casings with writing on them? The person who wrote that sentence ought to be fired.


95 posted on 12/05/2024 6:06:24 AM PST by Bryan24
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To: Nervous Tick

“Delay, deny, defend” is the title of a book on why insurance companies don’t pay claims.


96 posted on 12/05/2024 6:20:30 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’)
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To: Az Joe

Why lawyers like John Edwards are so important for the average citizen.


97 posted on 12/05/2024 6:28:45 AM PST by nwrep
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To: YeahBuddy
I'm thinking maybe he didn't want to activate the Shot Spotter (if NYC has them installed) where the cops could pick it up after the first shot. It would also give him more time to make his escape.
98 posted on 12/05/2024 6:49:58 AM PST by 4yearlurker ('Roll his bones over the stones he just a pauper nobody knows.")
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To: Nervous Tick; E. Pluribus Unum
Either that or no Neilson device on it (or a very dirty one).It is also known as muzzle boosters and exist to help short recoil guns cycle properly and overcome the excessive weight at the end of the barrel.

It would be VERY quiet, however, failure to cycle is a byproduct.

99 posted on 12/05/2024 7:02:37 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: EVO X

A question remains. Was the shooter a patsy? The real professional was paid to hire a patsy and eliminate the patsy after the job was done.


100 posted on 12/05/2024 7:08:37 AM PST by alternatives?
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