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Zelenskyy’s diplomatic play for Trump
Politico EU ^ | 11/30/2024 | JAMIE DETTMER

Posted on 12/03/2024 8:41:20 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Kyiv knows that it will have to recalibrate and take care not to get on Trump’s bad side, hence Zelenskyy’s emphasizing the importance of exploring diplomatic solutions.

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s nomination of Keith Kellogg, a former national security adviser and decorated retired U.S. general, to be his special envoy to Ukraine and Russia has reassured a nervous Kyiv up to a point.

Ukrainian officials are familiar with Kellogg, a peace-through-strength advocate who’s argued publicly that any deal to end the nearly three-year-long war of attrition would have to include solid security guarantees for Ukraine to ensure there’s lasting peace and to preclude another Russian invasion. Kellogg is no supporter of just throwing in the towel and letting Russia’s Vladimir Putin get everything he wants.

“We tell the Ukrainians, ‘You’ve got to come to the table, and if you don’t come to the table, support from the United States will dry up’," Kellogg told Reuters in June. "And you tell Putin, ‘He’s got to come to the table and if you don’t come to the table, then we’ll give Ukrainians everything they need to kill you in the field’,” he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.eu ...


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1 posted on 12/03/2024 8:41:20 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Yeah, but does he care enough to rat on the Biden crime family?


2 posted on 12/03/2024 8:43:16 AM PST by Stosh
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To: marcusmaximus

First he needs a time machine where he didn’t get Trump impeached.


3 posted on 12/03/2024 8:46:19 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: marcusmaximus

thefederalist.com
By: Breccan F. Thies
September 23, 2024

Ukraine’s Zelensky Used tax-paid U.S. Military Assets To Campaign For Harris in Pennsylvania. Zelensky’s visit with Harris surrogates comes on the same day The New Yorker published an interview in which he criticized Trump and Vance.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky appeared to use U.S. military assets to campaign for Kamala Harris on a visit to battleground state Pennsylvania on Sunday. On another trip to ask the U.S. government for money and munitions, Zelensky toured a Pennsylvania ammunition plant with Gov. Josh Shapiro, a prominent Kamala Harris surrogate, and other Democrats, including Sen. Bob Casey. Zelensky arrived in Scranton, Pennsylvania (President Joe Biden’s oft-referenced birthplace), aboard a U.S. Air Force C-17, images of which he used to advertise his visit. In a message recorded from the inside the aircraft, Zelensky noted, “This fall will determine what’s next in this war.”

“Zelensky is in Pennsylvania … signing bombs with Gov. Shapiro. Zelensky is also attacking J.D. Vance in the biggest, most important battleground state in the country during an election year,” Sean Parnell, former Pennsylvania Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, said at a Trump rally Monday. “Folks, if that ain’t foreign election interference, I don’t know what is.”

Notably, Zelensky’s trip came on the same day The New Yorker published an interview in which he criticized former President Donald Trump and his running mate, Sen. J.D. Vance, R-Ohio. Zelensky took issue with Trump’s debate response about the war in Ukraine, in which the Republican said he wanted the war to end. “Trump makes political statements in his election campaign,” Zelensky said. “My feeling is that Trump doesn’t really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how,” Zelensky added (emphasis original). “With this war, oftentimes, the deeper you look at it the less you understand. I’ve seen many leaders who were convinced they knew how to end it tomorrow, and as they waded deeper into it, they realized it’s not that simple.”

The Ukrainian leader also called Vance “too radical,” saying his plan to end the war with Russia is “just sloganeering.” “For us, these are dangerous signals, coming as they do from a potential Vice-President. I should say that it hasn’t been like this with Trump,” Zelensky said. “I don’t take Vance’s words seriously, because, if this were a plan, then America is headed for global conflict,” he continued, comparing a negotiation with Russia to appeasement of Adolph Hitler prior to World War II. “The Biden-Harris admin is using military assets to fly a foreign leader into a battleground state in order to undermine their political opponents,” Dan Caldwell, public policy advisor at Defense Priorities, posted on social media.

https://twitter.com/dandcaldwell/status/1838249007681786343
In response to an inquiry from The Federalist, the Department of Defense did not deny the use of American military assets for the trip, but declined to comment on Zelensky’s statements or apparent campaign work.

While not calling out Trump by name, Zelensky appeared to further criticize the former president later in the interview when he went after world leaders for seeking working relationships with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which Trump often stresses as key to foreign policy success.
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“A lot of world leaders want to have some` sort of dealings with Putin, to reach agreements, to conduct some business with him. I look at such leaders and realize that they are very interested in playing this game — and for them, unfortunately, it really is a game,” Zelensky said. “But what makes a real leader? A leader is someone whom Putin needs for something, not a person who needs Putin. Flirting with him is not a sign of strength. Sitting across the table from him might make you believe you’re making important decisions about the world.”

Ironically, Zelensky also said, “I think Ukraine has demonstrated the wisdom of not becoming captured by American domestic politics.” Zelensky visited the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant during his trip to Pennsylvania. According to Military.com, the plant is one of a handful in the country that produces a 155 millimeter artillery shell. The United States has already shipped 3 million such shells to Ukraine.

He will attend the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday and Wednesday before traveling to the nation’s capital to meet with President Joe Biden and Harris to ask for more military assistance. The U.S. has already contributed over $56 billion to Ukraine, making it the largest donor in the Ukraine Defense Contact Group. The group of about 50 countries has given Ukraine a total of $106 billion since the beginning of the war.

The artillery shells Zelensky inspected, and to which he affixed signatures along with Shapiro, have a range of 15 to 20 miles, but Zelensky has been persistently seeking longer-range missiles to fire into Russia. However, the Biden administration has not approved those munitions, and it has argued that the Ukrainian military already has the capability to fire at Moscow with its own drones.


Breccan F. Thies is an elections correspondent for The Federalist. He covered education and culture for the Washington Examiner and Breitbart. You can follow him on X.


4 posted on 12/03/2024 8:46:35 AM PST by Liz (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to RULE. (H.L, Mencken))
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To: marcusmaximus

And release all the records you have on the Bidens’ dealings with Burisma and the Ukrainian government.


5 posted on 12/03/2024 8:46:47 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: aynrandfreak

Could Z be made to disclose all of Biden’s corruption in that country? Trump has the upper hand.


6 posted on 12/03/2024 8:47:40 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Stosh

Does not matter now as Hunter has been given a blanket pardon.


7 posted on 12/03/2024 8:48:59 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump should assure Zzzz of more assistance, ONLY after a complete and verifiable disclosure of EVERY payoff, and the identities of every US person who received money for assisting Ukraine interests


8 posted on 12/03/2024 8:49:43 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“ Could Z be made to disclose all of Biden’s corruption in that country? Trump has the upper hand.”
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I’d be surprised if that happened successfully. I worry about the possibility of Trump instead being influenced successfully by a campaign of flattery - his main weakness. Just sayin’.


9 posted on 12/03/2024 8:53:09 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: tennmountainman

He has a pardon for US laws. If getting a prosecutor changed to stop investigating Burisma was worth a billion dollars of aid, just imagine what the tens of billions in weapons could buy now. Do they hang foreigners for corruption in Ukraine?


10 posted on 12/03/2024 8:55:28 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Now unburdened by the Biden/Harris administration that has been.)
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To: House Atreides

Putin needs to tell his surrogates to stop insulting General Kellogg.


11 posted on 12/03/2024 8:58:09 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: House Atreides
I worry about the possibility of Trump instead being influenced successfully by a campaign of flattery - his main weakness. Just sayin’.

Don't you have some potpourri or top 40 thread somewhere to post on? Because you only embarrass yourself on the adult threads.
12 posted on 12/03/2024 9:02:37 AM PST by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I have a gut feeling that “Z” is going to disappear. To some obscure place. His people can’t really be supporting him.....and I believe they are threatened every day and in every way...”Z” has turned them into beggars.


13 posted on 12/03/2024 9:03:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: JoSixChip

“ Don’t you have some potpourri or top 40 thread somewhere to post on? Because you only embarrass yourself on the adult threads.”
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Wow…. how childish of me to suggest that my current hero (Trump) may have a susceptibility to flattery. My childish hope is that within his inner circle is a courageous individual to point out flatterers to Trump when that is needed.


14 posted on 12/03/2024 9:16:59 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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Putin needs to tell his surrogates to stop insulting General Kellogg.

Tell your Biden to stop pardoning criminals.

15 posted on 12/03/2024 9:35:47 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Donald Trump Says Joe Biden’s Remarks Gave Russia the ‘Green Light’ on Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-biden-russia-ukraine-green-light-invasion-1671488


16 posted on 12/03/2024 9:38:13 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: tennmountainman
--- "Does not matter now as Hunter has been given a blanket pardon."

Could matter, if there are other "parties" and especially outside of US jurisdiction, such as in the UK and other European nations.

Could matter for James Biden, or others peripherally involved. And then there are other Americans who had a hand in the Burisma-related issues and beyond. This has not as yet been fully untangled.

As more emerges, it is sure it will be entertaining.

17 posted on 12/03/2024 9:41:28 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus

What Kurakhovo doink?


18 posted on 12/03/2024 9:41:32 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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--- "Donald Trump Says Joe Biden's Remarks Gave Russia the ‘Green Light’ on Ukraine" -- Newsweek....

Published Jan 21, 2022

19 posted on 12/03/2024 9:43:00 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus; Worldtraveler once upon a time; Allegra; bimboeruption
"Donald Trump Says Joe Biden’s Remarks Gave Russia the ‘Green Light’ on Ukraine"
By Isabel van Brugen

The return of Das Bruggie!

Even if it was from before the advent of The Special Ukraine Sock Military Operation...  

🧦🧦🧦🧦

20 posted on 12/03/2024 9:52:34 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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