Posted on 12/03/2024 4:30:09 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Vladimir Putin will reject Donald Trump's proposed peace plan and would only end the conflict in Ukraine if he gives him huge concessions, a hardliner close to the Kremlin has warned.
Russian tycoon Konstantin Malofeyev, who is sanctioned by the West, slammed Trump's recently picked envoy Keith Kellogg and his proposals on how to end the conflict with Kyiv.
'Kellogg comes to Moscow with his plan, we take it and then tell him to screw himself, because we don't like any of it. That'd be the whole negotiation,' Malofeyev said bluntly in an interview from a luxury Dubai resort.
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Malofeyev has responded by presenting a long list of demands which go beyond Putin's publicly-stated conditions for a ceasefire, which include Kyiv ceding four frontline regions to Russia and agreeing to never join NATO.
The businessman, who has strong influence but no official position in the Kremlin, told the FT that Trump would only have a chance of ending the conflict if he backtracked on the decision to allow Kyiv to use ATACMS long-range missiles on Russian territory.
He warned that the move had left the world 'on the brink of nuclear war', and said that if the US failed to roll back its support for Ukraine, Moscow could launch a tactical nuclear weapon.
'There will be a radiation zone nobody will ever go into in our lifetime,' he threatened. 'And the war will be over.'
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“The loss of Ukraine as a sovereign state is a recoverable loss.”
Of course, as long as you are not Ukrainian, you idiot.
“their nukes”
North Dakota declares independence from Biden tyranny.
A delegation from Bismark goes to a North Dakota USAF strategic forces area to seize nuclear missiles and warheads.
The delegation gets told the nuclear stuff will remain under USAF & White House control.
Any attempt to seize the nuclear stuff from USAF personnel will result in large explosions.
The sum of your 11 points will be a non-starter for Ukraine and for NATO.
What Malofeyev is saying is EXACTLY* what Putin and the rest of the Russian government has been saying, which is that Russia was never in this game to grab land, but since the West hasn’t bothered to talk to them for nearly 3 years - while basically PROMISING that Ukraine joins NATO the moment the fighting stops, they were left with no other option (short of national suicide).
Kellogg will have to figure out the above and try something BRAND NEW for the West, which is to actually LISTEN to Russia’s concerns and try to address them. Then progress can be made. Trump has the right people around him to do just that...and so we’ll see if he can pull it off.
“Trump will not put up with Putin. The little POS must be in a panic.”
Will Trump send Ukraine more American Wunderwaffen? If it does, fewer Wunderwaffen can be sent to Taiwan.
It’s not that losing Ukraine or Putin being a Tyrant doesn’t matter, it just does not matter as much.
This matters, it’s everything. All ideas of war, sending cruise missiles to Zelensky to attack Russian targets have to recognize this fact.
Watch:
https://sgs.princeton.edu/the-lab/plan-a
So all Ukrainian people choose death over the loss of their sovereign state status?
Moron, you know the answer to that is no.
You have to be kidding. Members of a mutual corruption society (at least up until 2014) are going to trust each other?
Nor would the population tolerate such a junta.
“The sum of your 11 points will be a non-starter for Ukraine and for NATO.”
The US military is short of men who would fight COVID jabs and pervert infiltration.
“So all Ukrainian people choose death over the loss of their sovereign state status?”
You are the moron if you really think the Russian military is going to risk national suicide by starting a nuclear conflict. They won’t. They’ll kick Putin out and make a deal before they seal their own fate just to satisfy Putin.
A proxy war with Russia over a Biden-supported Ukraine makes us LESS secure — by draining our budget and making a needless enemy out of Russia.
The clear and present danger to the US comes from our Deep State.
The Rooskies can wait.
Well, that’s a strategic mistake.
Trump would end this. If what this guy says is true, Russia will end up regretting snapping the olive branch.
Let me borrow your crystal ball when you are done with it Mr Wizard.
Because I want your ability to see the future as well.
Z-Man has already said he wants to negotiate directly with Trump,
bypassing Trump’s Peace Envoy Kellogg. I wonder how Kellogg feels
about Z-Man trying to bypass him? Not a smart move by Z-Man.
Kellogg Will put Z-Man in his place.
Z-Man will work with Kellogg or he can fight to the last Ukie Male.
The Russians would be wise not to antagonize President Trump.
“If Pooty wins, nuclear blackmail will become the way of the world. That’s a 100% certainty of a future nuclear war.”
We could just surrender to Lockheed and Raytheon by giving them our daughters, homes and absolute power. That way they wouldn’t have to drag us into WW3.
Vlad will impale himself
Negotiations have started.
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