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To: Elsie
You may now procede to post the Scripture that backs up these two statements.

No need. As a Catholic I do not believe in sola Scripture. I will take the testimony of the Church. Now you who do, post the Scripture that says that she did sin or did not remain a virgin.

Also please post the Scripture that lists the books of the Bible.

145 posted on 12/03/2024 1:09:07 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius; Elsie; daniel1212
You all are making the claim that what applies to the whole human race doesn't apply to Mary, that she's exempt from the natural human condition.

It's on you to defend your position.

It's not a matter of you can make any claim you want, no matter how baseless and then demand it be accepted and believed unless someone can disprove it.

There are plenty of Scripture that indicate Mary had a normal marriage relationship with Joseph that produced other offspring.

They've been posted before and rejected because Catholics don't want to believe them. But just to humor you, here they are again.

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 1:24-25 And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife, but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

Luke 2:7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

And surely, both DR Luke and the Holy Spirit know the difference between *only* and *firstborn*.

God gave His ONLY son.

Mary bore Jesus as her FIRSTBORN son.

152 posted on 12/03/2024 2:36:16 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: Petrosius
Now you who do, post the Scripture that says that she did sin or did not remain a virgin.

Alrighty.

Book of Leviticus 12:6-8 Douay-Rheims Bible
6 And when the days of her purification are expired, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring to the door of the tabernacle of the testimony, a lamb of a year old for a holocaust, and a young pigeon or a turtle for sin, and shall deliver them to the priest: 7 Who shall offer them before the Lord, and shall pray for her, and so she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that beareth a man child or a maid child. 8 And if her hand find not sufficiency, and she is not able to offer a lamb, she shall take two turtles, or two young pigeons, one for a holocaust, and another for sin: and the priest shall pray for her, and so she shall be cleansed.


Romans 3:23 Douay-Rheims Bible
Douay-Rheims Bible For all have sinned, and do need the glory of God.

2 Chronicles 6:36 Douay-Rheims Bible
And if they sin against thee (for there is no man that sinneth not) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them up to their enemies, and they lead them away captive to a land either afar off, or near at hand,


Matthew 1:24 Douay-Rheims Bible
And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. Also please post the Scripture that lists the books of the Bible.

 

 

 

Was it fair of me to use the Scripture that the RCC accepts - found in the Douay-Rheims Bible?

188 posted on 12/04/2024 4:29:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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