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To: Petrosius; Elsie; daniel1212
You all are making the claim that what applies to the whole human race doesn't apply to Mary, that she's exempt from the natural human condition.

It's on you to defend your position.

It's not a matter of you can make any claim you want, no matter how baseless and then demand it be accepted and believed unless someone can disprove it.

There are plenty of Scripture that indicate Mary had a normal marriage relationship with Joseph that produced other offspring.

They've been posted before and rejected because Catholics don't want to believe them. But just to humor you, here they are again.

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 1:24-25 And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife, but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

Luke 2:7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

And surely, both DR Luke and the Holy Spirit know the difference between *only* and *firstborn*.

God gave His ONLY son.

Mary bore Jesus as her FIRSTBORN son.

152 posted on 12/03/2024 2:36:16 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: metmom

“Firstborn” is a legal term for the first born male child that opens the womb and must be redeemed through a special offering. It does not imply that there were others born afterwards. I would have thought that someone who has studied Scripture would have known this.


158 posted on 12/03/2024 2:58:08 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: metmom
There are plenty of Scripture that indicate Mary had a normal marriage relationship with Joseph that produced other offspring.

'Cause iffn ya don't, some wise a.., uh, acre will come along and post pearl clutching things like...

THIS!



Joseph:  Mary; are you asleep?
Mary: You bozo; you KNOW I have to do my prayers.
 
Joseph:  I was just wondering if....
Mary: You hornytoad;  you KNOW I have had this HEADACHE for nigh unto these 12 years or so!
 
Joseph:  A fella can HOPE eternally; can't he?
Mary: Hope all you want; you ain't gettin' it:   I HAVE to remain a VIRGIN for my FOLLOWERS!!
 
Joseph:  What 'followers'?
Mary: The ones who will be bombarding me forEVER with their heartfelt requests!!!
 
Joseph:  I may as well be dead...
Mary: What did you just mumble?  I ain't DEAD; just FRIGID.  Now roll OVER and go to sleep. 
 
 
 
 
Mary: Son? are  You listening??   I've got a bunch more good, Catholic prayers for you to deal with.  Ready?

195 posted on 12/04/2024 4:50:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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