Posted on 11/24/2024 9:23:02 AM PST by RandFan
The last time MPs voted on the question of assisted dying - nearly three quarters were against it.
Nine years later - polling suggests two thirds of the country would back a change in the law.
That ratio is mirrored in the number of cabinet ministers who've so far publicly declared their position, with 10 for and five against (only nine have obeyed the instruction from Cabinet Secretary Simon Case not to get involved).
But the bill's cabinet opponents have made some of the most high-profile interventions in the debate.
Health Secretary Wes Streeting and Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood are the two individuals who would be most responsible for seeing the legislation translate into practical reality for the NHS and court system.
They've raised similar concerns about the safeguards in place around vulnerable patients feeling pressured or coerced into taking their own lives.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
Mixed feelings.
In theory, I’m totally for it. I want that option for myself. I have a friend who has been a member of the Hemlock society forever. Much better if she had a supportive and helpful doctor on her side.
In practice, I’ll always vote against it. No matter how good the theory, I just don’t trust the people who would administer it. I’ve lost all faith in the medical community through this covid business. And what happens in Canada isn’t giving me any warm fuzzies.
I don’t trust little bureaucrats to make judgements on the life and death of an individual. Mentally ill people need to go into treatment (BRING BACK MENTAL INSTITUTIONS!) not be zapped at a time when they’re down. People down on their luck that can’t see up need people to show them better pathways than the final one. People who need support that they’re not getting from their families need protection from those families and help from the taxes we pay.
But people who are seriously physically ill and see a quality of life ahead with no hope, while still in possession of their mental facilities, deserve the right to make decisions of their own. I support rational suicide. I just don’t support IRRATIONAL suicide.
But I’m not capable of judging the difference. And I’m not trusting most people to be capable of judging the difference. So until we get the Good Person with Perfect Judgement in the place of decision making, I’ll stick with letting individuals find their own private ways of choosing their road forward or to the Stop sign.
I’ll continue to vote NO on assisted dying while cheering on those who make their own decisions.
Bear your cross to the bloody end like Jesus did and be thankful that He did.
And I say this as a guy who is sick to death of bearing crosses even now, God knows what awaits me.
Bring assisted dying to the U.S. and combine with term limits.
Just kidding.
As a person of Scottish descent whose ancestor’s lands were taken by the British crown and given to toadies while they being shipped off to Georgia with Oglethorpe, I’m all in for reducing the numbers of English. No bitter family oral history in my family. Bob’s your uncle I say.
Partially a moot point, and the rest is all wrong.
The moot point: Folks on hospice or facing end of life are often denied (at their request) life prolonging care or (unofficial but the reality) over dosed on pain relieving medications in the course of pain management. As it is today in the US, it’s about as good as it’s going to get!
It’s a choice between a doctor, the patient, and there is a good reason for the course of action. Death isn’t pretty, but in this case, managing pain and adjusting the level of care to the patients desire, you can morally make a case for it.
The wrong: As usual, get government and some idiotic philosophical and academic ideas in the mix, and things get stupid. It’s not the government’s job and in fact a dangerous precedent when government gets into the business of deciding who gets to live and who not. Government is influenced by contemporary pop culture themes and social movements, economic interests, and if there is one group that should NOT be in this business it’s the government.
Leave it to government, and you’re going to end up with some very weird outcomes eventually, almost inevitability. Example Netheralnds, where 12 year olds can be euthanized with parental consent. Don’t believe it, check it. Once government gets into this business, they need to create forms, categories, articulate policies, and of course all this involves politicians that are being pulled in various directions. No!!! Absolutely not the way to go.
Is this about individuals dying, or the UK overall? For the latter, a vote seems superfluous.
I am willing to give it a go if my “favorite” politico is there administering the shot — while I administer my own.
Getting the government involved in assisted expiration- even to end the suffering of terminally ill patients is unwise
RFK Jr. will be assigned to make America healthy again. He knows the food we eat is bad for us and the medical industry makes more money when they treat diseases rather than prevention. A lot of wasted money. We live longer but we now take longer to die. I don’t want anyone to bathe me or wipe my ass. I’d take that pill to off myself. It’s called informed consent. Problem is most will be too scared to do it when the problem is staring them in the face.
The youngest baby boomer is around age 60. A lotta dying coming up. That and a lot of indifferent caretakers will be needed.
I’m not against it, if you have cancer, ALS, or some degenerative disease that involves a horrible long drawn out death it should be your right to be able be medically assisted in dying.
They have to get rid of the old folks to make room for their replacements who are streaming through the borders.
When there was a debate on making abortion legal, they used the justification of cherry picking the most extreme circumstances imaginable (rape, incest, severe medical issues etc) but there was never any intention to limit abortion to these extremes, it was the thin end of the wedge to make sure that abortion on demand for any reason was available, even it it was about personal convenience.
The same will happen with ‘assisted dying’. The circumstances in which it will be applicable will be extended and extended until the point that people will be being put down to save money without their consent because of a decision made by others.
Its already being used to allow the mentally ill and the depressed to commit suicide instead of help them work through their issues.
Protect life—from conception to natural death!
You really believe Starmer “won’t make any demands”?
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Church of England and Great Britain is assisting its own suicide. There is no vote.
Abortion is assisted country suicide. They and we deserve it, brutally, through the cold heart.
They will keep adding reasons for you to be able to kill yourself. They even may make the decision for you.
I guess I am old fashion, I still think God should be the one when one dies!
Studies show that nobody has reported satisfaction with their suicide.
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