Posted on 11/20/2024 3:18:17 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Vladimir Putin has mysteriously disappeared from public view as his regime issued apocalyptic World War Three nuclear threats over the use of long-range Western missiles by Ukraine against Russian territory.
It is unclear if during the past 12 days of high international tension the Kremlin dictator has been holed up in a hi-tech bunker, unwell, underwent another round of plastic surgery, took a secret holiday or simply chose to remain out of sight. Yet Putin, 72, has not been definitively seen since an appearance at the Valdai Forum in Sochi on November 7 when he congratulated a "courageous" Donald Trump on his election victory and hinted he was ready for talks to end the war in Ukraine, according to the Faridaily Telegram channel, which monitors his movements and appearances.
"Where Putin is in these anxious days, when the war with Ukraine is entering a new round of escalation, and what he is doing, apparently only his security and a small circle of close associates know," said the channel. Putin was noticeably absent from view on Tuesday when the Kremlin announced he had signed off a new version of Russia's nuclear doctrine, a revelation which came soon after his spokesman indicated the amended text was not ready.
(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...
Typical reply from a paid troll
Is Putin dead and is Russia using a body double in his place AGAIN?
Oh my... your links proving how wrong and utterly disconnected from reality the Russians were concerning the duration of the war... will produce another round of exploding heads.
For good measure here is yet another link from Dear KGB Leader himself from 2014:
Putin Boasts of Being Able to Take Kiev in 2 Weeks
https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/
Time.com which links back to NYT in the very first sentence. I don’t get why you idiots think linking to known propaganda networks does anything to bolster your own propaganda. Combine the brain power of all the clowns you pinged and you people couldn’t outwit a gnat. Dumb neocon trash. I’m embarrassed for you all.
You are categorizing any news describing Russia’s bad decisions and wrong doings as Western propaganda. Your choice.
And any news coming from the Kremlin and the corridors of the KGB/FSB is considered by you as absolute indisputable truth - no questions asked. Again your choice. But I find it nonsensical to exclusively rely on Russian propaganda.
The Kremlin has not denied that Putin actually said that Kiev could be taken in 2 weeks. Instead they are trying to limit the damage by saying those words were “taken out of context”... Thats a very weak and defensive remark and it sounds spectacularly disingenuous .
Putin made the incendiary comment in a phone conversation with European Commission President José Manuel Barroso, according to Barroso’s account, published by Italy’s La Repubblica on Monday.
Barroso said he asked Putin if Russian troops had crossed into eastern Ukraine, La Repubblica reports.
“That is not the question,” Putin reportedly said. “But if I wanted to, I could take Kiev in two weeks.”
The Kremlin did not deny that Putin made the statement, but insisted it was taken out of context."
Time, September 2, 2014
Two of my quotes were from Russian government officials directly connected to the war:
There is your "three day victory".
So, the real question is, why would anybody want to deny that Vlad the Invader expected a quick and easy victory over Ukraine when he invaded in February 2022, just as he had when he invaded Ukraine in February 2014?
What's up with that?
Hahahahaha. Look who’s talking. When someone weak minded is proven badly wrong, that’s when the insults start.
That is the beginning of such a curious statement, we should explore all of it more carefully:
Who in the world are such people with "actual experience" and "in the know", and how are they/you posting on Free Republic?
"In the know" is not Free Republic, "in the know" are elitists Democrats and radicals of all stripes.
"In the know" is all about a cadre of superior minds who are going to rule over and direct all of us ignorant unwashed masses.
So, on Free Republic, FRiend, you can take your "in the know" and shove it where the sun don't shine.
And what, exactly is your "actual experience" -- in the Russian army?
Of course, Russia is "restrained" by any number of factors, including:
Notice that what's not included in the list of restraints on Russia's actions are any interest in issues of legality, morality, safety, economic or humanitarian concerns for even Russia's own people, much less Russia's enemies.
So, yes, Russia has shown "great restraint", but not for any reasons that need to concern us.
What everyone not blinded by Russian propaganda does realize is that the only way to stop and defeat an aggressive dictator/empire builder, like Vlad the Invader, is to threaten or stop him militarily -- there's no other way.
The only real issue is: do we stop him while he's relatively small & weak, or must we wait until his conquests have made him too powerful to defeat with anything less than a global scale war? -- i.e., 1930s redux.
I'd call that Russians projecting their own mental pathologies onto their enemies.
In reality, the Old World Order is the one established by the US and our Western allies beginning in 1945.
It is centered in Western-style democracies in North America, Europe and the Western Pacific, but includes many other friendly nations as well.
From 1945 to 1991 the "Old World Order" was strongly opposed by Soviet style Communism and since Vlad the Invader's rise to power around 2000, it's increasingly opposed by Russian Tsarist-style empire building -- so, Vlad's is the "New World Order" that he wants to replace our Old World Order.
It does seem to be a standard claim of all our "in the know" elitists that, in effect: -- the rest of us ignorant & unwashed masses have been deluded & brainwashed into believing that good is bad, up is down, day is night, and the reality we see is not really real.
Such claims are at least entertaining, if worth entertaining only briefly -- pending some new & indisputable fact that can reveal what the "real truth" might actually be.
But I would not hold my breath waiting for such a "real fact" to be revealed by those "with actual experience" and "in the know".
I think the reality is that nearly all such claims are just scam & nonsense.
Another self description by one of our "in the know" pro-Russians.
Well worth repeating:
“Ukraine is a sovereign state and has the right to choose the path to ensure its own security.
I don’t see anything unusual here in principle.
Or something that would spoil the relations between…
Or could possibly spoil relations between Russia and Ukraine.”
- Vladimir Putin at NATO Summit Meeting in Rome, Italy (May 28, 2002)"
So, the very core of Russia's propaganda about "NATO expansion" is pure nonsense.
It was not a problem until Putin decided to make it one of his excuses for resurrecting the Old Tsarist/Soviet empire.
Masterful takedown. Absolutely correct in all respects.
Perhaps The Kremlin is doing a “General Franco” on us.
LOL!
Chamberlain was much maligned but did one good thing. He gave the UK - which was standing alone against Nazi Germany - a year to prepare.
You guys don’t need to ping everyone on the thread every time you post something.
I don't see how it's masterful or even a takedown. It seems have been quite the effort to simply say "I'm a neocon so shut up!".
BTW, don't ping me unless you and I are conversing. If I want to interface with neocon trash I will do so on my own.
He didn’t say anything neocon. That is just a non-sequitur and an ad-hominem.
That's your opinion.
If I want to interface with neocon trash I will do so on my own.
You don't have to struggle with that. It is rather straight forward.
You joined in an already long ongoing conversation. If you don’t want to hear the conversation then don’t join.
WRT to the post originally TO ME every false point posted was proven wrong.
Once again a person with nothing valuable to add resorts to name calling.
Look slick, when I tell you not to ping me to YOUR wider conversation, don't ping me to YOUR wider conversation. Thems the rulz! Get it?
You set “the rules” here. Hahahahaha. Apparently you’re a little too fragile for FreeRepublic.
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