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AI Just Analyzed Philosophy—And Its Questions Are Terrifying [16:44]
YouTube ^ | November 4, 2024 | Lucas A. Baxendale

Posted on 11/14/2024 8:29:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv

AI Just Analyzed Philosophy—And Its Questions Are Terrifying | 16:44
Lucas A. Baxendale | 39.2K subscribers | 209,601 views | November 4, 2024
AI Just Analyzed Philosophy—And Its Questions Are Terrifying | 16:44 | Lucas A. Baxendale | 39.2K subscribers | 209,601 views | November 4, 2024

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KEYWORDS: ai; faithandphilosophy; philosophy
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To: SunkenCiv

The First Law of Philosophy: For every philosopher, there’s an equal and opposite philosopher.

The Second Law of Philosophy: Unfortunately, they’re both wrong.

Question: What’s the outcome of crossing a philosopher with the Godfather?
Answer: An offer you can’t understand.

Q: How many philosophers are required to change a light bulb?
A: Three. One philosopher will change the bulb and two philosophers to hypothesize about the existence of the light bulb.


21 posted on 11/14/2024 8:57:19 AM PST by DFG
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To: SunkenCiv

lol You waited to see it for so long it stopped being science fiction and became a documentary. ;) https://www.servethehome.com/inside-100000-nvidia-gpu-xai-colossus-cluster-supermicro-helped-build-for-elon-musk/


22 posted on 11/14/2024 9:03:14 AM PST by Retrofitted
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To: SunkenCiv
Re: "AI Just Analyzed Philosophy—And Its Questions Are Terrifying [16:44]"

Glad to know you didn't find my question terrifying.

Some time back, I read some of the sites devoted to advising -- often as a matter of their own self-promotion -- how to title YouTube videos to get more "clicks."

"Terrifying" and other such sales gimmicks are one.

Several of my more serious nerd friends think of AI as indeed "artificial," and not particularly intelligent. Passing the Turing test or Searle's Chinese room turns out to have been always the same answer as the snake oil salesman. If your audience thinks it's true, it really doesn't matter if it is. Just how much can you rake in before you have to leave town.

LLMs are failing often these days, because GIGO still applies, and YouTube will be happy with clicks and AdSense and such. Many AIs have developed into racists, misogynists, sexists, or antisemitic and the like, because surveying language means surveying gems and the pig sty also. Just a matter of which one. And if one believes..... Entertaining though. Best wishes.

23 posted on 11/14/2024 9:03:37 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Wuli

Absolute nonsense. AI can only draw on knowledge already promulgated on the internet. Its a total scam.


24 posted on 11/14/2024 9:05:18 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: EnderWiggin1970
--- "...a recursive loop of increasing gibberish dominating the net, with AI being trained off previous generations of AI, becoming ever more divorced from reality or simple reason."

That would be the Kamal-AI.... unburdened by burdens from which it unburdened itself of the smorgasbord, while keeping the salad.

25 posted on 11/14/2024 9:06:48 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

The really dumb titles have text like “this happened three minutes ago”, or “greatest [whatever] of all time!”, or “most unique”. :^) :^D

In a relatively recent interview, Woz referred to his own “actual intelligence” as being the only AI he was interested in. :^)


26 posted on 11/14/2024 9:07:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Retrofitted

https://www.britannica.com/technology/Colossus-computer


27 posted on 11/14/2024 9:11:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Too many examples to be anywhere near complete, but....

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I suggest a new category of human -- AI Denier. Wanna join the club. So far it's exclusive (in name only).

28 posted on 11/14/2024 9:17:43 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: dfwgator; DallasBiff
AI Copyright Claimed My Last Video | 24:10
Venus Theory | 359K subscribers | 141K views | 2 days ago
AI Copyright Claimed My Last Video | 24:10 | Venus Theory | 359K subscribers | 141K views | 2 days ago

29 posted on 11/14/2024 9:19:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So much more wordy and complicated than it needs to be. Hasn’t anybody here read Asimov? His works contain everything you need to know about AI. In fact, he laid out a simple quide decades ago, to manage AI. He called it the “Three Laws of Robotics”

A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


30 posted on 11/14/2024 9:23:39 AM PST by The_Harlequin (…the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, wi)
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To: The_Harlequin

Asimov’s three rules are succinct because he was actually intelligent, unlike the various AIs being marketed these days.


31 posted on 11/14/2024 9:34:23 AM PST by curious7
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To: rdcbn1
No.

Because AI does not exist. And probably never will exist.

This is a large language model.

Not AI.

32 posted on 11/14/2024 9:38:12 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: The_Harlequin

Asimov, everything need to know about AI? Hardly. Science fiction is fiction first, despite how it’s referenced.

My favorites of his robotics stories involve problems with the three laws (one had a robot that was stuck in a loop for hours because of the way it had been told to carry out a rescue I think it was; the other had a robot with an altered version of the first law and had committed murder).

His “The Billiard Ball”, “Marooned Off Vesta”, and “Nightfall” are my favorites of his, but I’ve not read any of his in decades.


33 posted on 11/14/2024 9:38:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Exactly, it’s just software.


34 posted on 11/14/2024 9:39:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Imagine AI fed by nothing but frat-boy level philosophical ramblings and this is about what you’d get.

As someone said above, “Garbage in, garbage out” is axiomatic in computer science.


35 posted on 11/14/2024 9:44:52 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: BipolarBob

Yur post sounds like it was written by an AI bot.


36 posted on 11/14/2024 10:14:29 AM PST by Wuli
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To: anonsquared
Unless/until AI is capable of using critical thinking to know it has made an error in judgement and then correct that error, it is not intelligent, it is just a program... or a Democrat.

Well, in fairness, No one is claiming that we have, at least that we know of reached the singularity

yet

37 posted on 11/14/2024 10:19:51 AM PST by atc23 (I voted early for TRUMP)
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To: SunkenCiv
That's very interesting. I've had many philosophical and theological discussions with ChatGPT and they are nothing like that particular example.

In fact, I submitted the transcript of the video to ChatGPT and asked if it is possibly fake and here's the result:

Me:

Can you tell if that discussion was created by AI or fabricated by humans to sound like it was created by AI?

ChatGPT:

Yes, there are signs that suggest it could be a fake or manipulated piece of AI-generated content rather than a genuine AI conversation. Here are some clues pointing toward this possibility:

Overly Simplified Language and Tone: The conversation uses phrases like "Humans: Brilliant Yet Ridiculous" and "AI Wants Knowledge, Not Power," which sound more like caricatures of AI opinions than realistic AI-generated content. The tone feels exaggerated, as though trying too hard to sound like a dramatic “AI voice,” which could be a stylistic choice to mimic AI but is not typical of actual AI-generated philosophical discussions.

Excessive Preachiness and Anthropomorphism: The dialogue anthropomorphizes AI, attributing emotions and motivations (e.g., “I could use a bit of digital caffeine”), which feels contrived. While some AI-generated text might dabble in these themes, it’s unlikely to present AI entities as self-aware beings needing "digital caffeine," making this appear as if a human author crafted it with a strong dose of satire or irony.

Inconsistent Depth and Shallow Analysis: Genuine AI outputs, especially on topics as broad as philosophy, tend to have structured responses that logically connect points. This transcript jumps rapidly between topics with surface-level comments, which could either be a sign of poorly optimized AI or a deliberate attempt to create something that merely sounds like AI. The superficial treatment of complex topics in quick succession could be an attempt to parody AI’s handling of human philosophy.

Intentional Over-Representation of AI’s Perspective: There’s an unusual focus on AI’s superiority to humans, with comments like “AI Sees What Humans Never Will” and “Humans Fear What They Don’t Control,” which seem contrived to amplify the “AI as superior” narrative. This framing feels as if it’s intended to invoke the trope of AI perceiving humanity with cold, critical detachment, which is common in fiction but less likely in genuine AI output designed for neutral analysis.

Sensationalist Themes: The transcript features themes like “AI Rights” and “AI Must Lead The Intellectual Quest,” which are provocative and play into fears of AI surpassing humanity. This aligns more with human-created science fiction than with the kind of content an AI platform would generate on its own without specific prompting, suggesting it could have been crafted or edited for dramatic effect.

In conclusion, while it’s possible the conversation was generated by AI with some post-processing for flair, the exaggerated tone, caricatured portrayal of AI, and inconsistent depth suggest it could be partially or entirely fabricated to sound like an AI conversation on human philosophy.


38 posted on 11/14/2024 10:30:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." They failed. )
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To: SunkenCiv
BTW, I want to point out that in asking for a response from ChatGPT, I never ask leading questions. If you ask a leading question, you won't know if the platform is giving you an unbiased response or just giving you the response it concludes that you want.

You'll see that neutrality demonstrated in in my question: "Can you tell if that discussion was created by AI or fabricated by humans to sound like it was created by AI?"

39 posted on 11/14/2024 10:38:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." They failed. )
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds like the ramblings of a demonic entity.


40 posted on 11/14/2024 11:01:36 AM PST by dragonblustar (You best start believing in Bible prophecies, you're in one.)
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