DUNE 2

BEJ

[BEJ]

Is the movie Dune 2 worth watching? I have seen a trailer and the one young evil knife fighter looks like Sam Briton, the guy who worked for the Biden administration and stole luggage? I was waiting to see smudged lipstick on his face. Also, I think I saw the actor who played the evil dude in “No Country for Old Men.” But his lines seemed too stiff and predictable. All I could think was that he would be pulling out that Hydronic Hose Gun he had in “No Country for Old Men.” Visually, the movie looks striking and everybody is riding a sand worm like you take a bus or subway. I think the visuals are the best. Some EVIL scenes look horrific -- like you just woke up in some mad, black and white, dystopic world. Whoever did that was the Devil himself or just plain ingenious nobody. Everything seemed fresh and new visually, but there is also an Arabic/Mexican vibe that seems out of place. Let me know what you think.

[steel_resolve]

It was just ok. Zendaya sucks and has only one facial expression, kinda like she is constipated the entire time. Honestly the first was better

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I liked it. It was OK. Went and watched Dune 1 after it.

The main actor (Timothée Chalamet) was in The King, based on several plays from William Shakespeare’s Henriad about Henry V.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80182016

I liked that movie a lot. Extremely historically accurate. The battle scenes were very authentic. The dialog was from Shakespeare, and it doesn’t get any better than that. The character Falstaff (played by Joel Edgerton) was the best part of the movie for me.

[LegendHasIt]

Yeah, I agree. The first one with Kyle Machlacian was much better. I wouldn’t pay more than a couple of bucks to see the recent one; An OK way to kill a couple hours at best.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Visually, it's incredible. The desert scenes and sandworms are fantastic. It'll clean up come awards time.

My issue was that they left some things out and adjusted some other parts of the story to create more drama. So in a way, the result was character assassination of the main character because they didn't properly explain his motivations. It also ends with he and another main character -- who always stood behind him in the books -- breaking with him. Again, likely for dramatic impact, or perhaps virtue signaling.

But if you're interested in the story at all, I'd definitely see it. Great popcorn flick despite mucking up the story a bit.

[wildcard_redneck]

It is a good movie with awesome soundtrack and special effects. It diverged from the book a bit but then again, what movie doesn’t?

[Telepathic Intruder]

JRR Tolkien read Dune and said he didn’t like it, but refused to give any further specifics because he was a friend of Frank Herbert. But let me offer a guess. It was a dark future where religion was used simply as a tool by the powerful houses to manipulate the masses. This is exactly what many atheists believe, by the way. But that leaves out the possibility that God is real and faith in Him isn’t just a sham. I for one don’t believe that Christian churches are just proselytizing a lie, because it just doesn’t make any sense. JRRT was a Catholic, you know, and I think it’s possible that he didn’t like how his Catholic faith was being portrayed.

[Rockingham]

Dune 2 is a reasonably good but flawed second half of the most recent movie adaption of a great sci-fi novel. As is usually the case in science fiction, film struggles to capture acting that is not overwhelmed or made absurd by the stunning visuals, immense scale, and improbabilities of the genre.

You want great acting, go to traditional human scale material that elicits and accommodates it. You want giant sand worms, Death Stars, ray guns, robots, star gates, galactic empires, big ideas, and space ships doing battle with swooping sounds and dramatic orchestral scores, go with science fiction. If you want great or even just acting in science fiction, you are almost always asking for too much.

[alexander_busek]

Also, I think I saw the actor who played the evil dude in “No Country for Old Men.” But his lines seemed too stiff and predictable. All I could think was that he would be pulling out that Hydronic Hose Gun he had in “No Country for Old Men.”

IMDb is your friend! Do your own research! That will enable you to far better understand the films you watch, to analyze and comment upon them, and to pose intelligent questions about them.

The actor in "No Country for Old Men" is named Javier Bardem, and, yes: He does play "Stilgar" in "Dune" and "Dune 2."

[...] but there is also an Arabic/Mexican vibe that seems out of place.

Why would you think that, in a movie based on a book with a glossary of words, fully half of which are of Arabic origin, an "Arabic vibe" could possibly be out of place? That a book/movie which explicitly references an "interstellar Jihad" shouldn't have an "Arabic vibe?" That's like complaining that a WWII movie about D-Day "was interesting, but had too many German dudes in black uniforms with swastikas running around in it."

Regards,

[wardaddy]

Boy she is awful

[wardaddy]

IMDB killed its forum long ago

Started out lib then people like us gained a foothold and they zotted it
You could tell they hated conservatives comment on movies lol
It was mighty high high volume forum for its run no question

One of the biggest I ever saw

[alexander_busek]

IMDB killed its forum long ago

I was not referring to its forum, the movie reviews posted there, etc. - but rather only to the basic data available there.

I meant that when a movie-viewer wants to identify an actor, or find out who wrote the musical score, etc. he should do some basic research first and consult IMDb before posting inane questions here at FR.

What you say about leftists controlling the narrative there may or may not be true - I don't usually bother reading the reviews, or if I do, I do so fully aware that they might be politically biased. I have a built-in "filter" that allows me to nonetheless - i.e., despite the existence of such bias - extract the information I need.

The same story with Wikipedia. I still use it (and even occasionally link to it here on FR) when it comes to basic info regarding, e.g., Astrophysics - but when it comes to political themes - such as the 2024 United States Presidential election - it is on a par with Julius Streicher's "der Stürmer."

Regards,

[outofsalt]

Whenever someone asks about a movie based on a book, my answer is, read the book before you go. The movie cannot capture all the details of the written story. Unless you know what is happening in the story you will be a little lost in the movie.

Having said that, there are almost 0 movies that capture the grandeur of the written story. A couple of the Tom Clancy movies came close. Both of the Dune movies are fine, but pale compared to the book.

[Herakles]

Just like football the streaming service want me to pay for it, it’s not worth watching

[virgil]

Dune 1984 was really weird and it left out a lot from the book. It was directed by David Lynch, so yeah, weird. I still liked it. Dune 2 was ok. I didn’t like the Chani character either. She was much more loyal in the book and I don’t recall her wondering off into the desert in the end. It was Paul who eventually ended up doing that. Neither version mentions they had a child together. I liked the TV series best.

[Bullish]

If you really loved the book like I did then you should probably watch it just to say you did.
If you didn’t, then maybe watch it if you have nothing better to do... It won’t kill ya’.

[Jim Noble]

Dune (the novel) borrowed heavily from Bedouin Arab culture and language to create the Fremen.

[ByteMercenary]

“Honestly the first was better” - totally agree.

The technological inconsistencies in D2 drove me nuts. In D2 their civilization had anti-grav figured out as that is how they moved the mined spice around. But then the people got around using ornithopters, the most inefficient way of powered flight imaginable. Other examples also ...

[Macoozie]

Tried to watch several times. The whole atmosphere is wrong. Turned it off
Better things to do that watch that one.

[Krosan]

I think the movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” was better than the book even though the book was good too.

Ken Kesey (the writer) had worked in a psychiatric ward as an orderly. Miloš Forman (the director) had lived it in the Russian-occupied Czechoslovakia.