Posted on 11/07/2024 4:42:52 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Russian Security Council Secretary Sergei Shoigu said on Thursday, a day after Donald Trump became U.S. president-elect, that the West should accept Russia was winning the Ukraine war and negotiate an end to it.
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The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump’s transition team had proposed that Kyiv could promise not to join NATO for 20 years in exchange for Washington agreeing to arm it heavily to deter a Russian attack. Russia says it will not comment on media reports, and that it would need to see the details of any plan before commenting.
The Kremlin reacted cautiously on Wednesday after Trump won the presidential election, saying the U.S. was still an unfriendly state and that only time would tell if his rhetoric on ending the war translated into reality. Reuters reported in May that Putin was ready to halt the war with a negotiated ceasefire recognising current battlefield lines, but was prepared to fight on if Kyiv and the West did not respond.
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marcusmaximus advocates for him.
That's all I gotta know.
I was saying even before the war started that Ukraine should just make a deal and sell the land to Russia. Like when we bought Alaska from the Russians.
The Russian army is at home in the oblasts of the Russian Federation - Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Luhansk, the Russian Republic of Crimea and the Russian federal city of Sevastopol.
Not in the Ukraine.
Keep screwing around, and the little Ucrazian grifter will be coughing up the future Russian Federation oblasts of Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa.
Stop dreaming.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/11/21/fact-sheet-us-assistance-ukraine
A decade of decline is the end result.
Sure Mucus ...
Zelensky says Ukraine struck by 900 bombs in the space of one week November 3, 2024
Frozen Conflict = Uke GloboHomoPedoNazis Already Lost.
The Elensky Line, which is currently being ground to flinders, says otherwise, neocon fabulist.
Continue to lie like a neocon. You don't construct a Maginot Line with the intent of giving it up without a shot.
Look up "de facto", Petey Boy.
I thought we established on Tuesday last that The Spew York Times was just as accurate about the current war in the Ukraine as they were accurate about Duranty's reporting on the Ukrainian famine all those years ago.
Tell yourself to stop reading The Spew York Times for information on this war, Petey Boy.
He's like the soldiers in the Imperial Japanese army who never surrendered after World War II.
And this week, he Haz The Madz that The Putin is crushing The Elensky.
We have no right to impose that condition on Ukraine.
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That’s fine.
So when do we get our 150 billion back?
Imposing a complete withdrawal of Russian troops from the county they invaded seems a better long term solution.
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Ethnic war is never cured, runs for centuries. As the Ukie Nazis started bombing the Russian ethnic provinces back in 2014, it is highly unlikely they would stop if they somehow regained the Russian Donbass, especially when Vlad has effectively destroyed the nation of Ukraine.
In fact, with the Ukies track record, if Vlad somehow ever pulled out, we would witness the Ukies fury decimate all ethnic Russian men, woman and children. Everyone knows this. Ukraine’s upcoming negotiations ( surrender) begins where the violated Minsk Agreements left off….Vlad’s stated objectives will be met.
Sorry, but I look at a number of other sources. Like you, I do not trust NYT. I would suggest that you look beyond Russian sources. They are in a worse state concerning personnel and economy than you think.
I was referring to the line they held before the invasion.
Ukraine either surrenders or continues to lose territory. Those are the only two options.
If Russia has to speed the war along, it will simply take out the rest of the electric grid in Ukraine and flood Europe with refugees.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-shortage-energy-russia-missile-attack-nuclear-infrastructure-research/
Ukraine faces toughest winter yet as energy shortages loom
Kyiv faces daily blackouts of eight to 20 hours amid an onslaught of Russian attacks.
You're a liar.
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