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What do REAL Fascists actually believe?
TikHistory ^ | 16/10/24

Posted on 10/27/2024 2:11:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

There are so many misconceptions about Fascism, National Socialism and Third Positionism that few people actually know what their ideology is. Yes it's racist, but why? And what else do they believe? In this video, we will read quotes from modern and historical Third Positionists, and listen to the adherents themselves, to uncover the truth - that this ideology is different than what you might expect.

I AM NOT A FASCIST, nor a Nazi, nor a Third Positionist. I am against these hateful ideologies. This video is for informational purposes and was created so we may better understand the past and learn from the mistakes others have made. Only once we understand what Fascism actually is can we have a chance of stopping it.

Transcript linked below video.

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TOPICS: History; Reference; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: fascism; fascist; fascists; nationalsocialism; philosophy; thirdway; underpinnings
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Always interesting.
1 posted on 10/27/2024 2:11:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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History shows hitlery and all democrats are nazis.


2 posted on 10/27/2024 2:24:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: Eleutheria5

TIK does a good job with his history videos. The one thing I disagree with is that Fascism must inherently be racist and/or based on racialist thought. Look no further than Mussolini. They were certainly socialist and nationalist but there was hardly any racial animus until later years when under pressure from the Nazis they adopted an antisemitic position. Indeed, there were several fascist supporters of Mussolini in Italy who were Jewish prior to that.


3 posted on 10/27/2024 2:38:38 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: no-to-illegals
History shows hitlery and all democrats are nazis.

What we have in the US right now with the revolving door between the Pentagon and defense contractors or the FDA and Big Pharma or the Intel agencies and Big Tech, or the Treasury Dept/the Fed and Big Banks, etc etc.....with the government and big business being in bed together and doing each other's bidding. That is called "corporatism". That is literal fascism.

We need to not only fire a bunch of bureaucrats and abolish some entire federal agencies, root out the corrupt/bd actors in those bureaucracies and bust up the Big Tech monopolies, we also need to pass laws that ban government employees from working for companies in the industries they regulate/oversee for a number of years after they leave government service. We have to smash that link between the two.

4 posted on 10/27/2024 2:44:11 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Eleutheria5
Many years ago I took a seminar history course from one of the worlds foremost experts on the subject of fascism, its historical underpinnings, its social mechanisms and how it had been established politically. What he taught stick with me throughout my life from those days in 1970. HIs name is Professor Emeritus Gilbert Allardyce.

I recommend that you read his books and articles on Fascism:



Fascism was a world wide movement in the mid 1920s. There were fascist parties which were quite Active in the USA and Canada as well as throughout Europe.

Another well written essay on Obama's fascism was made available by Kylie Anne Shiver, a seminal work pointing out how fascism now has been initiated once again in America by Democrats


Barrack Obama : The Quintessential Liberal Fascist by Kyle-Anne Shiver

5 posted on 10/27/2024 2:50:45 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: FLT-bird

Good assessment. Common sense government isn’t and never has been common.


6 posted on 10/27/2024 2:52:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: Candor7

I wonder whatever happened to Kyle-Anne Shiver. She was a great writer...a real up-and-comer.


7 posted on 10/27/2024 2:56:07 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people just adopt ideologies.)
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To: FLT-bird

Yeah, that is reverse engineering. It’s like saying Nazi Germans had fascist meetings in beer halls, so fascism always involves beer. It’s well known that Mussolini thought Hitler was a retard for spending so much effort of that topic and wasn’t a race theory enthusiast.
Fascism isn’t necessarily racist just because that was a centerpiece for Nazi Germans.
It’s merely the fusion of state and corporate power and the massive suppression of the individual and his liberty.


8 posted on 10/27/2024 2:57:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: FLT-bird
Excellent comment.

This is a job for Elon.

9 posted on 10/27/2024 3:09:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people just adopt ideologies.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I do not know what happened to Kyle-Annne Shiver, her last article posted to American Thinker was on October 12th 2012.

She is an excellent writer , one who truly has a solid background in the study of History in the classic academic sense, and she applies those truths to her writing, giving her readers an excellent insight into where we were , where we are and where we are going.

Political issues were presented with a great deal of clarity.

I miss her writing.

Her Facebook Page:

https://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Anne-Shiver/100064197630368/

Her Archived list of many articles ( American Thinker)

https://www.americanthinker.com/author/kyleanne_shiver/


10 posted on 10/27/2024 3:15:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Candor7
This may be a good book but Franco, shown on the cover, was not a fascist but a traditional Latin authoritarian, not unlike Salazar in Portugal, Batista in Cuba, or Peron in Argentina. He led a coalition of fascists (the Falange), traditional Catholics, and monarchists of two factions (Carlists and Bourbons) against a Communist-Socialist (Republican) government. The Germans and Italians aided his side while the Soviets and Communists throughout the world helped the Republican side. However, Franco, while dealing extremely harshly on the defeated Reds, never aligned with the Axis, staying out of World War II. The Falangist faction shared power with the other non-fascist factions. By 1955, pragmatists in both Madrid and Washington and London determined that aligning Spain with NATO was necessary in waging the Cold War.

Subsequently, the authoritarian nature of the Spanish government lessened and Spain moved to becoming a constitutional monarchy with a democratic parliament.

11 posted on 10/27/2024 3:17:00 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Candor7
Yep. I thought she would go on to make an important national contribution.

I guess she retired.

12 posted on 10/27/2024 3:39:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people just adopt ideologies.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“This is a job for Elon.”

Can you even imagine how heavenly it would be for PDJT 47 to sic both Elon and RFK onto these agencies at the very same time? Elon to orchestrate a major RIF to eliminate about 75% of the workforce, and RFJ to expose and eliminate the corruption.


13 posted on 10/27/2024 3:39:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the felon with the pierced ear.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Fascism: a police state, intolerant of dissent or alternative self-definition, private ownership but state control of the economy, intensely nationalistic.

Today, best exemplified by China.


14 posted on 10/27/2024 3:39:48 AM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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To: Wallace T.

Well told. Franco was massively vilified by communists propaganda. Republicans are romantic heroes fighting for freedom. Hemingway loved them. Franco was almost Hitler and that’s the whole story. Orwell didn’t agree and told what the communists were.


15 posted on 10/27/2024 3:41:06 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Absolutely.

And that's why I think the Deep State will go to war with the nascent Trump administration right after the election (and long before the inauguration).

16 posted on 10/27/2024 3:43:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people just adopt ideologies.)
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To: Eleutheria5

What does racism have to do with fascism?
And can anyone name a current fascist?


17 posted on 10/27/2024 3:44:33 AM PDT by caver ( )
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To: FLT-bird

As soon as it occurred to me that US automakers were going all-in on a massive changeover to EV’s and AV’s I thought of Rush and said to myself, “I hope they fail”, and yet I live in the Metro Detroit tri-county area.


18 posted on 10/27/2024 4:01:38 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: heartwood
Fascism: a police state, intolerant of dissent or alternative self-definition, private ownership but state control of the economy, intensely nationalistic.

Today, best exemplified by China.

We need a new term and definition for its kissing cousin:

Globalism: a police state, intolerant of dissent or alternative self-definition, private ownership but state control of the economy, intense desire to rule the world.

Today, best exemplified by WEF.

19 posted on 10/27/2024 4:12:33 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: FLT-bird

Our most recent fascist, Obama, forced us to purchase products from private companies: Health Insurance.


20 posted on 10/27/2024 4:35:56 AM PDT by Theoria
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