Posted on 10/14/2024 4:14:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Back when I was a union pipefitter/welder on several nuke plants, and was certified to weld any piping component on the site, we would see offsite vendor supplied piping systems show up. They were the worst looking welds, that we swore were done by some 1st month welder trainee. Some even had wire sticking out of them from MIG welding, others were full of porosity.
We would point it out to QC but it didn’t do any good. Eventually those were all tore out and replaced.
See my post # 39.
That seems to be the norm for this site lately. Its getting discusting.
Those repair contracts are very lucrative
It the Equal Opportunity OJT welding trainees with foreign ties the brag about on
internet commercials being all they can be - giants making giant boats.
Could be, but the welder is ultimately responsible for the weld. Every weld had a rod slip and welding rod was drawn from the rod shack and signed off by the person issuing the rod. Then it was checked by the QC during the inspection process.
It was not uncommon to get TIG wire that had some oxidation on it, but that was easily cleaned off prior to welding. When te weld was completed, all the rod used on the weld was turned in and the stubs disposed of at the rod shack. Low hydrogen rod, inconel, monel, and stainless stick rod were always kept in ovens at 200 degrees to prevent moisture. It was checked out in portable rod ovens.
Skipped backgouge on 2 sided welds to save time, maybe?
Yes, but, if the rod or filler material was inferior and not up to specs, it would create a faulty weld. If the tensile strength or the material was not up to standard, an xray or inspector would not be able to identify the fault. When hundreds of tons of welding material is ordered and delivered to the contractor, the contractor can only go by how it is labeled. If the manufacturer knowingly mislabeled the filler material , then I can understand the statement that the welds were knowingly faulty. Like I said, the article does not state who knew the welds were faulty, I don’t put the blame on the welders, they are a tough bunch but they have integrity, even if they don’t like their fitters.
I get you point now and agree. With the loss of manufacturing we’ve had since the 80’s it could introduce inferior products.
I’ve had more than my share of fitters that tried to cut corners when prepping my joints. As the welder, it was my responsibility to make sure the piping was built per the plans. I had some that couldn’t figure out why they were getting laid off, but I wasn’t.
Well no, before I retired from the fab shop, the welder was only responsible for his weld, the fitter was responsible for the fit meaning did the spool match the print or was there too much high low in the fit, You re right, the welder was responsible if the fit wasn’t precise for the weld but not for the finished product.
all a part of the Obama doctrine.
Evil. And frightening.
During WW2, my grandfather was “head rigger” at a shipyard in Mississippi. Tough as nails old Irish guy who was responsible for saying whether or not the ship was ready to sail. I can hear him whirling in his grave about this. If he could, he’d rise from the dead to raise hell with these treasonous idiots.
“Evil. And frightening.
During WW2, my grandfather was “head rigger” at a shipyard in Mississippi. Tough as nails old Irish guy who was responsible for saying whether or not the ship was ready to sail. I can hear him whirling in his grave about this. If he could, he’d rise from the dead to raise hell with these treasonous idiots.”
TOTALLY AGREE!
This is unimaginable!
I appreciate all the wisdom shared on this thread.
Too many loose ends with too many possible reason for this failed welds! Obviously, something happened & will continue to happen until all is totally investigated.
I worked on a project where they were demolishing a 14-story condo building that was only 5 or 6 years old. Where they had cut rebar somebody was supposed to put a dab of something to seal it so water couldn’t get in. But they did a crappy job, or didn’t do it at all.
They spent millions trying to repair it, but had to tear the entire thing down.
I mentioned to a supervisor how important even the most minimal job or task is.
“Well yeah - but it wasn’t just the worker. It was his direct supervisor that missed it. The building owner’s inspector, and of course the city inspector. And not just missing one rebar on one day - but numerous rebars over a long period of time.”
I said something like “What a waste” to a guy holding a shovel watching as more concrete came down.
“What do you mean a waste? I got paid to build it, I’m getting paid to demolish it, and I’ll get paid again to rebuild it!”
“Didn’t Earn It (DEI) hires, sabotage, or both.”
Much easier to bribe DEI inspectors too.
Death of the country by a thousand cuts.
Would expect the same standards would apply to components in a submarine.
Hard to imagine that such wide-spread bad workmanship is coincidence.
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That’s why I’m questioning it.
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