Posted on 10/14/2024 5:30:33 AM PDT by MtnClimber
It is past time for those who fight to register non-citizens to vote and/or fight to prevent their removal from the voting rolls to justify their actions.
Remember when we all had to prove our citizenship to renew our driver's licenses a few years back? This was a result of the federal Real ID Act of 2005. It basically provides that a state must verify that one is a U.S. citizen or is here legally before issuing a license. If a license is issued as compliant with the Real ID Act, there is a star in the upper right corner of the driver’s license (“DL”), and the DL can be used as a “federal ID” to board a commercial aircraft, for example.
There would be two DL databases, one for citizens and another for non-citizens. A non-citizen must prove the duration of their authorized presence here. If it is a one-year visa, then their license would expire when their visa expires. Since non-citizens may not vote in federal elections, common sense tells us that anyone on the non-citizen list should not be on a voter roll. Simply compare the two and strike anyone from the roll whose name is in the non-citizen database.
We can expect howls from the Left, which wants and needs non-citizens to vote illegally. They may cry that some people in those non-citizen DL databases may have gotten their citizenship at a later time. Fine. Compare the non-citizen database against the citizen database. If someone has since gotten their citizenship, they should have gotten a new license, and they would not be stricken. These database comparisons should take only a few seconds once programmed, and there is no reason not to run them right up until election day.
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But, illegal invaders were registered to vote on purpose by the left. The democRATs want them to vote.
It was a very young lawyer Hillary Clinton on the House Watergate panel who argued that President Nixon should not be able to use government lawyers in his defense of his actions while in office or even to represent things like “Executive Privilege.”
The career DC-ists who live across the Potomac in Virginia have stolen Virginia from conservatives.
For example,on the 1920 Census my grandfather (Dad's father) was listed as a US citizen born in Massachusetts but it lists my grandmother (Dad's mother) as an Irish citizen born in Ireland.
Yup...Maryland and Virginia have gone Rat because of all the households that get a government paycheck...and often more than one.With the exception of military paychecks if you get any kind of government check you’re very probably voting Rat.
> The democRATs want them to vote.<
No they do not! They want to vote for them.
Most of the illegals used a group address when being registered to vote. They were in transit to someplace else. The NGO that registered them now controls everything about that ballot.
It’s too risky to let the illegal vote. They may not like the socialist rot the dems are selling. Hence, the mail in voting with no ID.
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Why isn’t Virginia comparing their REAL ID LISTS against their VOTER REGISTRATION LISTS to determine how many noncitizens are registered to vote?
It would take Virginia’s computers about 5 minutes to produce the results.
Why are the States dragging their feet?
I think that states who have not scrubbed their voter rolls should not have their electors certified. It is vote fraud.
My wifes drivers license expires on the same day as her Green card, Not when she turns 65 like mine does in AZ
"Let’s look at how the Government actually works:
For my entire career I was a “Beltway Bandit.” That’s a person who is nominally employed by the private sector, but is being paid through one or more government contracts. That has several advantages for the government.
I could be fired. Government employees—to both the first and second order approximations—can’t be fired under all but the most, most extreme misbehavior. During the inevitable management personnel changes, it also gives the new SES (Senior Executive Service) or O9 (full Colonel or Navy Captain) the opportunity to replace the incumbent “Beltway Bandit” with one with which he has personal connections.
I was never counted as a government employee, even though my entire existence for 40 years depended on the government. This allowed the government to pretend that they employed far fewer folks than they effectively did. When money was needed to look for the mass graves in Bosnia, I was laid off. When the Obama administration cut defense spending, I was laid off. When the Budget Sequester became law, I was laid off—and I retired. You live by the Government teat and you die by the Government teat.
I guess I was a “Beltway Bandit" as well. I spent over 33 years working under government contracts.. I think there are a heck of a lot more people working for the government then we realize... :(
Because Merrick Garland’s DOJ is suing states to make sure that they can’t - claiming that the Help America Vote Act forbids requiring any proof of citizenship but requires states to trust illegals to tell the truth when they swear they are US citizens.
“”””Because Merrick Garland’s DOJ is suing states to make sure that they can’t - claiming that the Help America Vote Act forbids requiring any proof of citizenship but requires states to trust illegals to tell the truth when they swear they are US citizens.”””
But the DOJ hasn’t stopped Texas from comparing REAL ID and VOTER REGISTRATION LISTS. 2.8 million noncitizens have a REAL ID in Texas and 450,000 of those 2.8 million noncitizens are registered to vote.
So why aren’t the other 49 States doing the same thing as Texas???
HAVA forbids taking anybody off the voting rolls within 90 days of an election. I haven’t kept up on all of the DOJ lawsuits but I know that states which are trying to clean up their voter rolls - through WHATEVER means - are being sued by DOJ. I think VA is one of the states being sued. I’m not sure what the status is with TX but I’d be willing to bet quite a bit that they’ll be hit with a DOJ lawsuit if they actually try taking voters off the rolls at this point.
The whole thing seems crazy to me. The feds should be REQUIRING that states prove US citizenship before allowing somebody to vote in a federal election, because the whole nation is dependent on legitimate state elections when it comes to federal offices. The people that the states put into federal offices don’t just impact the people in that state; they impact ALL of us, and each state owes it to the rest of us to have honest elections.
Of course, SCOTUS wouldn’t take the case when almost half of the states sued over states who didn’t even follow their own laws and thus couldn’t come up with any “electors” that fit the Constitutional qualification to BE an elector: chosen by the manner prescribed by the state legislature.
Allowing non-US citizens to choose our House, Senate, and President is grounds for expelling the states which commit this treason, IMHO. But the courts ain’t gonna solve this problem and will instead make sure that the voters in the various states can’t solve it either.
So at this point we have to get out the vote - especially the 41 million Christians who say they probably won’t vote - and just brute-force win this thing with sheer numbers so it is beyond even the Smartmatic fraud in Venezuela (where a 2j-to-1 landslide by Gonzalez according to precinct tabulations ended up being a win for Maduro). And then we need to get rid of HAVA or amend it to say that states have a Constitutional duty to check and verify the US citizenship of any voter before allowing them to vote.
According the lawyer Robert Barnes that law is being misapplied and was not written for that purpose. It is not worded as such.
I can believe that, but that doesn’t mean that the DOJ won’t sue or that judges won’t misinterpret it. Which is why AZ has to have 2 different ballots: one for state elections, where the citizenship status is verified, and one for federal elections where the courts refuse to allow AZ to enforce their allow requiring proof of US citizenship to vote.
It’s so backwards. AZ and every other state has the right to run their state elections as they see fit. But when it comes to federal elections there is an obligation to the rest of the country to ensure that ONLY US CITIZENS can choose the people governing the country as a whole.
We need to change HAVA so clearly that there is no court that could possibly sidestep that requirement.
Should be “enforce their own law requiring proof”
“””HAVA forbids taking anybody off the voting rolls within 90 days of an election.”””
It has been a while since I read the particulars regarding HAVA.
My recollection is that there are exceptions to the 90 day rule. Such as:
1. A person has died during the 90 window.
2. A person is known to have moved from their registration address to somewhere else.
3. A person is known to be a felon or other classes that have forfeited their right to vote.
4. Other ‘for cause’ reasons.
From what I recall the 90 day rule applies to states removing voter registrants based upon them being inactive voters for say the last 10 years.
During my lifetime, I have been a registered voter in 9 different locations.
I never UN-REGISTERED when I moved to a new location.
Let me know if you find anything different re the HAVA 90 day rule.
I’m at work so can’t research it but if that’s the case the doj has no leg to stand on for removing names. Does it forbid citizenship verification though?
“”””I’m at work so can’t research it but if that’s the case the doj has no leg to stand on for removing names. Does it forbid citizenship verification though?””””
I don’t recall seeing anything about HAVA forbidding the states from verifying citizenship. I recall it was in about 2013 when SCOTUS messed up in their Arizona decision.
The Federal Voter Registration Form states it is a felony for a non-citizen to register to vote. Of course, these non-citizens are hardly concerned about this Voter Registration felony since they have already committed bigger felonies by illegally entering the USA.
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