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‘Totally my bad. Wow. Holy s—‘: Teen driver says fatal tanker crash, toxic chemical spill may have been her fault after watching dashcam video
lawandcrime.com ^ | October 05, 2024 | Marisa Sarnoff

Posted on 10/11/2024 1:05:31 PM PDT by Red Badger

Background: The aftermath of a tanker-truck crash that killed five people in Springfield, Ill. Inset: Footage of a car believed to have been connected to the crash (WCIA/YouTube).

A teen driver from Ohio has apparently admitted to setting off a chain of events that ended in a fatal tanker crash and a toxic chemical spill in central Illinois.

Five people were killed when a semitruck carrying anhydrous ammonia in Teutopolis, in central Illinois, on Sept. 29, 2023. The tanker jackknifed when it veered to the right in an apparent attempt to avoid a collision when another vehicle tried to pass it on U.S. 40, around 110 miles northeast of St. Louis, at around 8:40 p.m. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, the tank hit the trailer hitch of a vehicle parked just off the road, leaving a 6-inch hole in the chemical container.

About half the tanker’s 7,500-gallon load spilled, forcing the evacuation of around 500 people. The fatalities were due to exposure to the chemical, which is normally used by farmers to add nitrogen to soil. It is also used as a refrigerant in large buildings.

Within days, investigators determined that a passenger vehicle had tried to pass the tanker shortly before the crash. Now, in a newly-released federal report, the driver of that car — a 17-year-old girl — appears to have acknowledged that her attempt to pass the truck may have played a role in the tragedy.

The teen, who is not identified by name in the report, said in an interview on Oct. 4, 2023, that she was behind the wheel driving west toward Teutopolis at the time when she passed the truck because, in her words, it was going “super duper slow.” Her mother and brother were passengers, and according to her, while they were rattled by the fact that they were almost in a head-on collision as the teen was passing the truck, none of them had any idea about what had happened behind them after they returned to their lane.

That changed when she watched dashcam video from the truck.

“Did that happen?” she asked investigators, according to the interview transcript. “Oh, my gosh. Because again, I’m telling you I passed one or two trucks on there. So is that what happened? Is it literally — does it flip after I pass the guy?”

The investigators point out that the driver didn’t actually make contact with the tanker.

“Of course, but he did go off the road after I passed him, the truck?” the driver asked the investigators.

The transcript relays the teen’s discovery of her apparent role in the crash in real time.

Q. This is Route 40. There’s the no-passing zone sign. See that? A: Oh, s—. Q: Okay? A: Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yep, totally my bad. Wow. Q: Okay. A: Holy s—. Q: So we’ll watch this again. A: No, you don’t have to. It was totally my fault.

When asked if she was aware that the truck ran off the road following her passing it, she insisted that neither she nor her family members had any idea.

“None of us knew that this truck went off the road,” she said. “I’m finding this out now.”

“I mean, I thought for sure I saw his lights and it looked normal,” she also said. “Like I didn’t see anything that I was like, oh, this is abnormal, I should like see what’s going on behind me and like something’s wrong.”

The teen’s mother had heard reports of a crash on U.S. 40, but she said they didn’t realize it was connected to the truck they had previously passed and the “close call” with an oncoming vehicle.

Q: Was your night ruined after that close call? A. No. Because I thought I just passed a truck normally and everything was fine. I didn’t know he went off the road. I mean, logically looking back on it, I would’ve thought he could brake. But obviously trucks can’t stop quickly, so I — it looks like it was my fault from the video. Q. Do you think it was your fault? A. Now I do, but back then I had no idea. Of course I think it’s my fault now. How could I not? And like five people died. Who else died? Okay, so the truck driver died — Q. The truck driver didn’t, didn’t die. A. Oh, really? Well, some people in a house did, right? They’re totally innocent. Q. When did you find out about the people that died in the house? A. The news story. It was like a dad and two kids, right? Q. Yeah. A. I’m so sorry. Q. You’re fine. A: No, it isn’t fine. What the hell? Some people died, right? You said five people? Q. We don’t have to go into that right now. [Trooper]: We don’t have to — [Teen driver]: I need to know. Oh, my God.

According to the transcript, the driver struggles to comprehend what happened.

“I don’t know how we would not have noticed that,” she says. “Literally, that still makes no sense to me. You’d think it would like make a big noise or like we’d see the headlights going off the road or like some explosion like — you would think we would’ve known, but we didn’t know.”

Throughout the interview, the girl acknowledges that she is a relatively new driver and that in the past she “had times when I just don’t use good judgment in judging like distances and whether I have enough time for something.”

She also expresses regret when asked if she would have done anything differently.

“I’m not sure how to answer that,” she says. “I mean, it, it sounds like I made a shitty decision on the road that for whatever reason seemed completely fine to me in the moment, and it turned out not to be fine at all and I killed five people and now I’m — yeah, of course I’d do that differently. Are you kidding me?”

The five people who died as a result of the toxic spill were Teutopolis resident Kenneth Bryan, 34, and his children, Walker Bryan, 10 and Rosie Bryan, 7; Danny J. Smith, 67 of New Haven, Missouri; and Vasile Cricovan, 31, of Twinsburg, Ohio.

So far, no charges have been filed in the crash.


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To: BereanBrain

Which is why in the pre-freon days, refrigerators and freezers were kept outside on the front porch, due to the ammonia gas that was used.


21 posted on 10/11/2024 1:45:28 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Red Badger

But for convicted murderers, lawyers search in vain for “something humane”.


22 posted on 10/11/2024 1:48:10 PM PDT by Does so (Vote for The Anti-War President...🇺🇦...Dem☭crats...)
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To: Red Badger

For the first couple of years I had a drivers license I was a dangerous menace and greatly put at risk every vehicle on every road I traveled.

Yeah, this girl is an idiot but there but for the grace of God ..


23 posted on 10/11/2024 1:53:09 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: Red Badger

My advice...

https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs?si=eYarGnMDGW8r8CO0

5.56mm


24 posted on 10/11/2024 1:59:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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To: BereanBrain

It is TO THIS DAY used in RV refrigerator cooling systems. They are listed as captive systems but they do smell REALLY BAD when they leak.


25 posted on 10/11/2024 2:20:39 PM PDT by Spacetrucker ("You Missed,BI*CH" Tom MacDonald )
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To: alternatives?

I used to work with it. It is one of the more nasty chemicals I had to handle.


26 posted on 10/11/2024 2:23:46 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: FoxInSocks

Actually death from ammonia is very brutal. The ammonia combines with fluid in the lungs making ammonium hydroxide which is very basic with a high PH. It is like breathing fire and it is brutal. Happened to me as a kid and it was a leaking anhydrous ammonia tank. I was in a car and we drove through it quickly. If we had of been on foot it would have killed us.


27 posted on 10/11/2024 2:25:58 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: Red Badger

Oops!... I Did It Again


28 posted on 10/11/2024 2:26:39 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Does so

Sounds like they should fill the chamber with Anhydrous Ammonia


29 posted on 10/11/2024 2:26:39 PM PDT by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: Red Badger
Incidents like this is why my time driving 18’s OTR stopped after 3.5 years and 900k miles.

The truck driver would considered at fault by law, since there was no contact the reckless four-wheeler.

Truck driver lost control of his rid causing deaths.

There is a rule to keep truck drivers from liability of a crash: “You cannot avoid a wreck and cause a wreck.”

Driver should have maintained his lane and straight line braked only enough to decrease his speed to minimize his damage from contact if such were to occur.

The HazMat driver has his own legal obligation not to endanger the public with his cargo by his actions.

30 posted on 10/11/2024 2:26:40 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: DarrellZero

Is she 17 now, or at the time of the accident a year ago?


31 posted on 10/11/2024 2:28:32 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: DarrellZero
>>an unfortunate accident

This was not a “accident”, it was a liable crash with several violations of driving laws.

32 posted on 10/11/2024 2:30:54 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith
The HazMat driver has his own legal obligation not to endanger the public with his cargo by his actions.

Which is now probably a moot point since the kid apparently didn’t take the fifth.
33 posted on 10/11/2024 2:39:52 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Deaf Smith

Not saying she doesn’t deserve to be charged.

I’m saying it’s kind of curious that she hasn’t been.


34 posted on 10/11/2024 2:39:54 PM PDT by DarrellZero (.)
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To: mmichaels1970
>>a moot point

Truck driver did not maintain control of his truck and crashed it to avoid a crash, causing deaths.

35 posted on 10/11/2024 2:53:40 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith
Truck driver did not maintain control of his truck and crashed it to avoid a crash, causing deaths.

Not saying he didn’t. Just saying her defense gets way more difficult the moment she decides to say “my bad”. Had she, or her parents, refused to let her speak without legal counsel, perhaps she has a stronger defense. But now a prosecutor has a person fully admitting to being at fault. That hands them a lot of leverage imo.
36 posted on 10/11/2024 3:09:52 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: cpdiii
Sure. I’ve read up on it. No way for us to know how long they remained alive after exposure. I hope it wasn’t long.

Anhydrous ammonia, in liquid or gaseous form, reacts readily with water in the human tissue to form ammonium ions. This process is highly exothermic and causes significant thermal injury to the surrounding tissues. Also, the resultant alkaline solution causes liquefaction necrosis to the tissues through protein denaturation and saponification of fats. Its extraction of water from the human tissues initiates an inflammatory response.

Histopathologic examination of lung tissue after acute exposure to ammonia demonstrates acute pulmonary congestion and edema and desquamation of the bronchial epithelium. There is significant lower airway obstruction resulting from the debris of epithelial cells, red blood cells, and dust cells.

37 posted on 10/11/2024 3:19:12 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Deaf Smith

**Incidents like this is why my time driving 18’s OTR stopped after 3.5 years and 900k miles.**

That would be almost 5k miles every week for 3.5 years. You must have been a team driver.


38 posted on 10/11/2024 3:22:47 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
Negative.

And before electronic logs.

39 posted on 10/11/2024 3:33:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: larrytown

I doubt she even had an attorney.


40 posted on 10/11/2024 3:42:13 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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