Declining Fertility Rates

https://youtu.be/mEQEMpxLnGA?si=_gwyEoRCz50DJMds ^ | 4 October 2024 | Samo Burja

[impimp]

Great analysis by Samo Burja about declining global fertility rates.

Brainstorming some ideas that are compatible with Christianity: (note many of these are not compatible with the US Constitution)

1. Don’t let people vote when they reach 70 years old

2. Any welfare state that is available ceases to be available to seniors

3. Allow marriages without parental permission at the age of 16 (essentially 16 would become the legal age of adulthood)

4. Only allow people with dependent children the right to vote

5. massive tax reductions for those with a large number of children

6. make abortion illegal

7. implement family voting (the head of the household gets the same number of votes as the number of dependent children he has plus one as he votes on behalf of his wife)

8. Lump sum payment per child from the state

Here I am thinking long term and many nations will try a variety of things to keep their population from collapsing. Others will allow the population to collapse and paint it as a good thing as it reduces climate change or some other such nonsense.

[Sacajaweau]

Can we perhaps just imagine more people are using birth control??

[Sacajaweau]

Garbage thread...what the hell are you trying to prove?

[impimp]

birth control is much of the problem…but how will people stop being motivated to use it? Samo says that the underlying causes of low fertility are not well known. He states that even the religious nations are going to below replacement fertility.

[impimp]

Are you malthusian?

[Tom Tetroxide]

The declining fertility rate in China is so bad I’m expecting any day now that the Chi-Coms will be forcing men and women to get married and have children.

[fwdude]

None of this matters without a moral foundation. And we are very far from that.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Get rid of all unconstitutional feral government agencies and their regulations and let the economy grow at its full potential.

People will make babies when they feel prosperous enough to take care of them adequately.

Everything government touches turns to excrement. They should NEVER be involved in anything connected to having and raising children. Ever.

[SunkenCiv]

• Evangelicals For Harris Exposed As Pro-Abortion [10/03/2024]
• The global fertility crisis is already here [09/08/2024]
• A Look at Your Fertility Timeline [08/14/2024]
• South Korea, with World's Lowest Birth Rate, Prepares Complete Overhaul of Fertility Policy [05/19/2024]
• Turkey records dramatic decline in its fertility rate: official data [05/18/2024]
• Rise in parents engaging in sex-selection during IVF has the fertility biz booming [05/16/2024]
• Fertility Rates by State largely corresponds to the voting divide in the 2020 pres. election (Maps) [04/29/2024]
• U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low [04/27/2024]
• Uh Oh. US Fertility Rate Hits Record Low! [04/25/2024]
• Baby Blues: How to Face the Church's Growing Fertility Crisis...If current rates continue, most religious communities in America will shrink by more than half within three gener [04/16/2024]
• Puberty blockers may NOT be reversible and could raise children's risk of fertility problems and even cancer, Mayo Clinic study suggests [04/05/2024]
• China's 'fertility crisis' and the women rejecting motherhood [03/10/2024]
• Man who's 'obsessed' with becoming a dad loses nearly half his 434lb body weight on a 'carnivore diet' consisting of meat, eggs and dairy to 'improve his fertility' [02/29/2024]
• Warnings of the impact of fertility treatments in Alabama rush in after frozen embryo ruling [02/21/2024]
• Why has fertility plummeted across East Asia? [01/19/2024]
• China Now Has the World's LOWEST Fertility Rate [01/14/2024]
• Heartbroken NYC woman who had the WRONG embryos implanted and was forced to give twin boys to biological California parents settles lawsuit with fertility clinic after harrowing misha [01/10/2024]
• The Real Fix To The Fertility Problem [12/19/2023]
• BLM Seeks Wild Horse Research; House Passes $11 Million for Fertility Control [11/06/2023]
• Researchers uncover mechanism that links NAD+ to fertility problems [10/19/2023]
• Women with PCOS on keto diet may see improvements in fertility [09/10/2023]
• Woman Without Womb Accuses NHS of Fertility Treatment Discrimination [08/31/2023]
• Aussie parents blocked from seeing their babies as newborns are DETAINED by Greek authorities over human tracking fears after being born to surrogates in Crete at Mediterranean Fertil [08/30/2023]
• The Path to National Suicide: U.S. fertility rates have dropped over the last two centuries and show no sign of rising [05/23/2023]
• As fertility rate plummets in Catholic Italy, what hope is left for the West? [05/20/2023]
• Revisiting the causes of fertility decline in Bangladesh: the relative importance of female education and family planning programs [04/21/2023]
• That 'Arab Demographic Time Bomb' In Israel? It Doesn't Exist: Israel has many things to worry about. Fertility rate should not be one of them. [03/29/2023]
• Philadelphia will PAY women to get pregnant: Expectant mothers will be entitled to $1,000 a month 'with no strings attached' amid falling fertility rates and rising baby deaths [03/22/2023]
• THE UNSEEN APOCALYPSE–DEMOGRAPHIC WINTER: THE FATAL FALL OF FERTILITY WORLDWIDE [03/03/2023]
• Pfizer Director of mRNA Research Raises Fertility Worries Over COVID-19 Vaccine [02/02/2023]
• Do Men Have Biological Clocks? It's Not Just Women Who Have to Worry About Age and Fertility, Experts Say. [01/30/2023]
• India overtakes China as world's most populous country – see the graphs: China has announced its population has shrunk for the first time since the early Fifties as fertility rate [01/21/2023]
• Taiwan's military has a fertility problem: As China fears grow, its recruitment pool shrinks [12/18/2022]
• COVID shots linked to plummeting fertility, study says [11/08/2022]
• Tlaltecuhtli: Fearsome Fertility Goddess of the Aztecs [10/29/2022]
• 50% increase in miscarriages; 50% decrease in fertility after COVID vax [10/15/2022]
• Dr. Naomi Wolf targeted by the White House, I am working to find out by whom, how they moved to slander & damage her for telling women truth about COVID vaccine harms to ferti [09/09/2022]
• S. Korea's total fertility rate hits record low in 2021 [08/25/2022]
• Archaeologists recover ancient 'fertility statuettes' from famed Tuscan hot springs [08/12/2022]
• Suit against fertility clinic shows the lunacy of surrogacy after gays get a girl instead of the boy they ordered The wrong embryo was implanted into their 'gestational carrier,' the [07/09/2022]

[impimp]

I 100% agree that reducing government is a great thing…I 100% disagree that it is clear that would solve this fertility issue.

[impimp]

This is why I brainstormed fertility solutions compatible with Christianity. Totalitarian solutions will include forced reproduction, forced egg harvesting, etc.

[EnderWiggin1970]

None of these would move the needle. The fundamental problem is that people don't _want_ children, because they are indoctrinated into an infantile worldview of seeking instant pleasure and gratification rather than deeper, long-term joy at seeing the fruit of their labors flourish in the form of well-raised children. Who wants to spend thousands on diapers and food for the kiddos when it could be spent on jet skis and vacations to Acapulco?

The solution involves restoring and teaching a Judeo-Christian worldview and fencing out the toxic humanist worldview that is now setting the stage (if Christ does not return) for a civilization-ending population collapse akin to the dark ages that ended the Roman Empire. Back then the western Empire saw cities become ghost towns with only 5-10% of their peak population, even before the barbarian invaders hit. The invaders were pushing in on an undefended door to an empty house.

[impimp]

I am convinced that Christian values are essential…but I am not convinced that fertility issues will be solved by solely Christian values. I think that unique government structures and solutions will be shown to work in some smaller nations…these successful techniques will then spread as other nations see their success.

[impimp]

great list of threads….thanks!

[Sacajaweau]

I was...but no longer. Now I’m Catholic.

[impimp]

I am Catholic too…strictly following Catholicism solves fertility problem…the issue is that very few follow it strictly.

Glad that you stopped being a Malthusian as those people are nothing but trouble.

[Sacajaweau]

Stay out of other people's bedrooms. I'm Catholic and was on the pill for years. MYOB

Like I said...this is a garbage thread.

[Truthsearcher]

I’ve been advocating family voting for some time.

I think it’s the best solution, as it give weight to the voices of all citizens equally.

[impimp]

I am not in anybody else’s bedroom…i have no idea why you oppose the thread, or potentially even the idea of fertility rate based threads.

[PGR88]

Everyone should read Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 1978 address to Harvard Grads

He said (in sum): yes, marxism is terrible, and it is discredited everywhere, but don’t congratulate yourselves, Westerners. You are just as post-modern, materialist, consumerist, and even more spiritually flaccid than your Soviet counterparts.