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Electrical shock to neutralize snake venom--why anecdotal claims unsupported--frequency?
Pubmed, others ^ | 2001 Fall | E Ben Welch, B J Gales

Posted on 09/22/2024 9:58:08 AM PDT by tsomer

"During the past 2 decades, articles suggesting that stun guns be utilized to treat venomous bites and stings have appeared in both the lay and medical press."

(Excerpt) Read more at pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Outdoors; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: venomelectric
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But seriously, you still hear the claim & it's thoroughly debunked--probably the result of a 'dry bite' & desperation. But could it have actually worked because of the shock was administered at some particular frequency that some original subject serendipitously received. I know some of us freepers have considerable experience in electricity and snakebite and more than a few with both. The question then: could there be a way to neutralize snake venom using destructive resonance at a particular frequency carried by electrical current, frequency dependent? If so, I get a cut of the patent royalties.

1 posted on 09/22/2024 9:58:08 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: tsomer

I’ll stick to eating laundry detergent packs.


2 posted on 09/22/2024 10:12:44 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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To: tsomer

It would seem that it would be possible.


3 posted on 09/22/2024 10:14:51 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: NavyShoe

They have the packs for dishwashers now also.


4 posted on 09/22/2024 10:14:54 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: tsomer

I have heard campfire stories of cattle prods and tazers being utilized.

One story had happened in Brownwood and they had to drive to San Antonio to get proper care. All the way, the victim was getting lit up by a friend. By the time they got to the ER, it was just a nasty bite.

I do t know, but I would be willing to try if I ever got bit by a rattler.


5 posted on 09/22/2024 10:37:52 AM PDT by waterhill (I Believe! Eph. 5:11)
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To: tsomer

If someone’s been bit by a venomous snake, why not hit them with a stun gun and beat them with a stick?


6 posted on 09/22/2024 10:37:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: NavyShoe

I love your wit, too funny!


7 posted on 09/22/2024 10:47:00 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: tsomer

Probably campfire lore. Not all North American snakebites untreated with antivenom are fatal.


8 posted on 09/22/2024 10:54:20 AM PDT by fso301
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To: tsomer

hey joe come over here for a second...


9 posted on 09/22/2024 10:59:59 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: tsomer

They’re talking about this with corona:

“On the fundamental level, the sonification technique works based on exerting in-tune frequencies of the applied energy and the microbes such that a resonant phenomenon can be created. Consequently, the microbes would vibrate indefinitely under the resonant frequency until the occurrence of cell wall rupture that ends with disintegration and eventually death.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110016823007056

Remember the “Is it real or is it memorex?” commercial with the shattered wine glass? That sort of thing.


10 posted on 09/22/2024 11:02:15 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: NavyShoe

We want to keep this a clean thread.


11 posted on 09/22/2024 11:04:00 AM PDT by tsomer
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As I understand it, most of these venoms are proteins. And electric current will denature and destroy proteins.

In fact there’s a lot of info from NIH and other places online about this. Just search for ‘denaturing proteins with electricty’.

Seems like someone didn’t do much real research on this.


12 posted on 09/22/2024 11:04:21 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: tsomer

We should pre-shock venomous snakes and head off the problem.


13 posted on 09/22/2024 11:06:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: tsomer

Exactly What Royal Rife created the Beam Rayt to do.


14 posted on 09/22/2024 11:07:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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First I get bit by a snake, and then you want to raze me (bro)? No f’ing thanks.


15 posted on 09/22/2024 11:10:47 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Take. Damned small screen!


16 posted on 09/22/2024 11:11:17 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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TAZE!


17 posted on 09/22/2024 11:11:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: tsomer

The argument made in the Outdoor Life articles many years ago was that the body had one state of charge and the venom had the opposite charge so it more or less stuck together like a magnet. The electrical charge broke those bonds and allowed the venom to go systemic so that it was diluted and the body was better able to deal with that.

They “documented” people in 3rd world countries that normally would have died enroute to the hospital many hours away being saved by using a sparkplug lead off of a car.

My plan is just to never get bit.


18 posted on 09/22/2024 11:12:29 AM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: waterhill

Brownwood to San Antonio? There are a lot of good hospitals a lot closer than San Antonio.


19 posted on 09/22/2024 11:14:48 AM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: chaosagent

Brown recluse bite, use a taser on it a few times as it lumps up. Score the skin and sanitize with iodine. It works and no doctor visit needed. The same works for tick bites, taze the spot.... it can’t hurt the outcome.


20 posted on 09/22/2024 11:20:47 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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