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Iranian president pledges deeper ties with Moscow, state media says
Reuters ^ | 9/17/2024 | Reuters

Posted on 09/18/2024 4:03:13 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Iran's president committed his country to deeper ties with Russia to counter Western sanctions on Tuesday, state media reported, amid U.S. worries that Tehran is supplying Moscow missiles to hit Ukraine.

Russia's top security official Sergei Shoigu arrived in the Iranian capital days after meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang. More than two and a half years into its conflict with Ukraine, Moscow has been seeking to develop ties with the two nations, both hostile to the United States.

"My government will seriously follow ongoing cooperation and measures to upgrade the level of relations between the two countries," the state IRNA news agency quoted Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian as telling Shoigu, Secretary of Russia's Security Council.

"Relations between Tehran and Moscow will develop in a permanent, continuous and lasting way. Deepening and strengthening relations and cooperation between Iran and Russia will reduce the impact of sanctions."

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1 posted on 09/18/2024 4:03:13 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Now it comes out that Iran has been supplying the Biden Harris campaign with stolen Trump campaign documents since JUNE


2 posted on 09/18/2024 4:14:24 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Really? Got a source or link?


3 posted on 09/18/2024 4:22:13 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yes. Iran. They’re afraid of President Trump. And who funded Crooks and Routh?


4 posted on 09/18/2024 4:26:37 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: monkeyshine

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iran-tried-influence-election-sending-stolen-material-from-trump-campaign-bidens-camp-fbi-says?intcmp=tw_fnc


5 posted on 09/18/2024 4:27:00 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Obama and Biden paid them very good money to do just that.


6 posted on 09/18/2024 4:27:09 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: marcusmaximus

I remember when it was an impeachable offense to obtain info from a foreign adversary or is that only when a Republican does it I forget


7 posted on 09/18/2024 4:27:55 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

When we start drilling both will be in trouble.


8 posted on 09/18/2024 4:31:12 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: marcusmaximus

How much more deeper ties than the US and Ukraine? EU? No surprise here- tit for tat.


9 posted on 09/18/2024 5:02:08 PM PDT by delta7
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To: marcusmaximus

10 posted on 09/18/2024 5:16:11 PM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: monkeyshine

Jesse Waters just announced.


11 posted on 09/18/2024 5:40:57 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Holy moly! Onky Fox News reports? I’ll look for other sources.


12 posted on 09/18/2024 6:13:59 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: marcusmaximus

“Iran wants deeper ties with Moscow….”
Is that Iranian humor? :)

How on earth can they deepen their ties any further?
Iran, Russia, North Korea have officially have already officially launched a military alliance together.
That alliance is bombing parts of Europe and is proactively working against Israel as we speak.


13 posted on 09/18/2024 9:22:53 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: mass55th

Russian support will be quite worthless if/when Israel wipes them off the face of the earth.

Iran is a sucker if it thinks Russia wasn’t that kind of trouble with Israel.


14 posted on 09/18/2024 11:18:40 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Russia has the most nuclear weapons on earth. Unlike the USA that has not made a modern warhead in decades they have been manufacturing new and better warheads continuously since we walked away from the SALT treaties. Our nuclear scientists are all retirees or dead from old age. Russia has a younger new batch of scientists and technicians actively making new weapons.

How much deeper you ask. Russia can and probably will send some of those boffins to Iran so they skip over gen1 weapons and go directly to miniaturized thermonuclear warheads or they could just secretly let them have a couple to tear apart and reverse engineer that’s how much deeper. The idiot neocons keep pushing Russia farther away from the West so their cash laundering welfare were makes them richer. Russia is never giving up on its new citizens in the majority Russian former parts of Ukraine. Neocons need to accept that fact move on and let the western part of the most corrupt nation on earth negotiate a peace before nukes start flying on their home turf.


15 posted on 09/19/2024 4:10:13 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath; BroJoeK

Your post is thoughtful and I understand what you mean.
Based on your personal logical belief your reasoning holds up.

But for the sake of this conversation let me point out a few things that I have a strong belief for as well.

I know that the word “Neocon” is often used in discussions these days. But that word is being understood in different ways depending on who we’re talking to...

Example:
When we attacked Afghanistan, that move was based on common sense and our God given right to self-defense. Afghanistan protected Bin Laden after his massive terrorist attack on America. That was not a Neocon move, we rightfully responded - that’s all.

However, once our objectives were met in Afghanistan we decided to stay there forever, trying to civilize that country according to our western standards...
Even though the idea appears to be sain, the cost to make that happen was not worth it.
Thus, that war started on sain grounds but ended based on failed new objectives. Call those new objectives as “Neocon” if you like.

Also, when we liberated Kuwait from Iraq’s illegal invasion and annexation of that country, that was not based on neoconservative philosophy, in the beginning. We just couldn’t let Saddam Hussein take control of a big part of the world’s oil production - it would have been very bad for America’s, the West’s, and many other nations economies. Also, it would have been bad to rationalize Iraq’s attack on a sovereign nation. Letting that happen would give a green light to other tyrants around the world to just start invading their neighbors as well. World chaos = very bad for America’s economy. The SECOND Iraq war was a mistake though. (if we had truly finished the first Iraq war there would never have been a second unnecessary Iraq war though... let’s not forget that). The second Iraq war, or should we say “PART 2 of the first one” can be considered as a neocon one. Because we went beyond our initial objectives and tried to forge that country into a friendly modern Western-like nation... that was the mistake. Those countries will remain civilized forever. They don’t have the will.

Russia’s annexation of its small neighbor Ukraine is just as mad as Saddam’s annexation of Kuwait. No difference.
That’s why so many countries are opposing Russia right now. The level of illegality and thievery in this Russian attack against Ukraine seems to be more like pure terrorism rather than a war. Actually Russia has proven that that’s the case!

Indeed, they attacked Ukraine WITHOUT any war-declaration (that alone makes it a terrorist act) and without any kind of ultimatum of any kind. Thus the Kremlin decided to not call it a war... but a special operation instead. Its terrorism.

Ukraine’s capital Kiev was founded by the Vikings.
Ukraine is considered by many as being a “white-Christian stronghold”. That’s why I’m surprised the Democrats are still supporting that country.
It should be an all our Conservative / Republican support normally, based on our common Christian values.

Like with the UK, Europe, Canada, Taiwan, Australia etc... America has signed countless of accords with Ukraine.
You can see the long list of all what we have signed with Ukraine dating back +30 years till today. It proves beyond any doubt that Ukraine and America are true allies, with mutual responsibilities and duties towards each other.
That’s why we simply can’t let Ukraine be swallowed up by Russia’s unlawful and terrorist behaviour.

Law and Order. That’s the only thing that separates civilization from chaos.

America and the West are combining their efforts to contain the IRAN-Russia-North Korea Alliance’s dreadful actions against our allies Israel and Ukraine. That’s what allies do. Yes, there are costs doing this.
But the costs would be way higher if let gangsters roam free all over our towns and cities, and/or let Islamic-NeoSoviet-Commie forces massacre our allies and let them threaten our western nations with nuclear attack every week (as Russia is doing).

Law and order must be respected among allies.


16 posted on 09/19/2024 11:45:21 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

“Those countries will remain civilized forever. “

Correction:
I meant to say :
“Those countries will remain un-civilized forever.”


17 posted on 09/19/2024 11:49:36 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE; GenXPolymath

“You can see the long list of all what we have signed with Ukraine dating back +30 years till today. It proves beyond any doubt that Ukraine and America are true allies, with mutual responsibilities and duties towards each other.”

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THE LIST:

Below is a detailed list of the key agreements and accords signed between the United States and Ukraine, which prove that the U.S. is indeed an ally of Ukraine. These agreements cover a range of areas including security, defense, economic cooperation, energy, and democratic development, underscoring the comprehensive nature of the U.S.-Ukraine alliance.

1. Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances (1994)
Signed: December 5, 1994, in Budapest, Hungary.
Parties Involved: Ukraine, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia.

Key Provisions:
In exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal (then the third-largest in the world), the U.S., UK, and Russia provided security assurances.
Commitments included respecting Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty, and existing borders.
The signatories agreed to refrain from using or threatening to use force against Ukraine and to refrain from economic coercion.

Significance: This memorandum underscored the U.S. commitment (and even Russia’s signed commitment back then) to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, laying the groundwork for subsequent U.S.-Ukraine relations and proving the U.S. as an ally in safeguarding Ukraine’s independence.

2. Charter on a Distinctive Partnership (1997, Updated 2009)
Signed: July 9, 1997, in Madrid, Spain; updated December 19, 2009, in Washington, D.C.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Established a framework for U.S.-Ukraine cooperation in areas including political dialogue, economic development, security, and defense.
The creation of a U.S.-Ukraine Binational Commission to monitor and enhance bilateral relations.
Emphasized Ukraine’s sovereignty and the shared commitment to regional stability and security.

Significance: The charter formalized a “distinctive partnership” between Ukraine and the U.S., setting up structured cooperation mechanisms and reaffirming U.S. support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and independence.

3. U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership (2008)
Signed: December 19, 2008, in Washington, D.C.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Affirmed the strategic partnership between the U.S. and Ukraine, highlighting areas of mutual interest such as democracy promotion, economic cooperation, and energy security.
Reiterated support for Ukraine’s aspirations to join NATO and its Euro-Atlantic integration.
Strengthened commitments to cooperate on defense and security matters, including military reform and modernization.

Significance: This document significantly deepened the U.S.-Ukraine alliance, particularly in terms of defense cooperation and support for Ukraine’s NATO aspirations, proving a long-term strategic alliance.

4. Memorandum of Understanding on Conventional Weapons and Ammunition (2011)
Signed: 2011
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Focused on the elimination of excess stockpiles of conventional weapons and ammunition in Ukraine.
Enhanced cooperation to reduce the risks associated with weapons proliferation.

Significance: This agreement demonstrated U.S. commitment to improving Ukraine’s internal security environment and reducing proliferation risks, reinforcing the alliance through tangible security cooperation.

5. Defense Cooperation Framework Agreements (Various Years)
Signed: Various years, with notable agreements and updates frequently made.
Parties Involved: United States Department of Defense and Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense.

Key Provisions:
Agreements cover joint military training, defense capacity building, and the provision of military assistance, including lethal and non-lethal aid.
Cooperation on military reforms and enhancing interoperability with NATO forces.
Joint military exercises and exchanges to enhance Ukraine’s defense capabilities.

Significance: These defense agreements solidify the military dimension of the U.S.-Ukraine alliance, providing substantial proof of the U.S. commitment to Ukraine’s defense against external threats.

6. Bilateral Trade and Investment Framework Agreement (TIFA) (2008)
Signed: April 1, 2008.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Established a formal framework to expand and enhance trade and investment between the two countries.
Promoted dialogue on economic policies, trade barriers, and investment opportunities.
Created a mechanism for resolving trade disputes.

Significance: The TIFA underscored the economic dimension of the U.S.-Ukraine partnership, proving a commitment to mutual economic growth and cooperation.

7. Joint Statement on the U.S.-Ukraine Strategic Partnership (2021)
Signed: September 1, 2021, during President Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to Washington, D.C.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Reaffirmed the U.S.-Ukraine strategic partnership across multiple domains, including democracy, security, and economic growth.
Strengthened cooperation on defense, cybersecurity, and energy security.
Emphasized the U.S. commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russian aggression.

Significance: This joint statement reaffirmed and updated the strategic partnership in light of evolving threats, further solidifying the U.S. as an ally of Ukraine.

8. Bilateral Cybersecurity Cooperation Agreement (2017)
Signed: 2017.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Established a framework for enhanced cooperation on cybersecurity.
Included provisions for sharing information, best practices, and technical assistance to improve Ukraine’s cybersecurity defenses.

Significance: This agreement reflects the U.S. commitment to helping Ukraine address modern security challenges, such as cyber threats, particularly those emanating from Russia, proving a deep alliance in digital security.

9. U.S.-Ukraine Memorandum of Understanding on Energy Cooperation (2018)
Signed: November 12, 2018.
Parties Involved: United States Department of Energy and Ukraine’s Ministry of Energy.

Key Provisions:
Outlined cooperation in energy security, including nuclear energy and diversification of energy supplies.
Focused on reducing Ukraine’s reliance on Russian energy resources.

Significance: This memorandum emphasized the strategic importance of energy security, showcasing the U.S. role in supporting Ukraine’s energy independence and resilience against external pressures.

10. U.S.-Ukraine Agreement on Science and Technology Cooperation (1999, Renewed Multiple Times)
Signed: May 4, 1999; renewed in 2006, 2011, and 2018.
Parties Involved: United States and Ukraine.

Key Provisions:
Promoted collaboration in scientific research, technology development, and innovation.
Covered areas such as space exploration, environmental science, and biotechnology.

Significance: This agreement fostered scientific and technological collaboration, benefiting both countries and reinforcing a long-term, broad-based alliance beyond military and economic domains.

Resume:
These agreements collectively demonstrate the United States’ juridical commitments to Ukraine as an ally. They cover a wide range of cooperation areas—security, defense, economic development, energy independence, cybersecurity, and scientific collaboration—providing a strong legal and strategic foundation for the U.S.-Ukraine alliance.


18 posted on 09/19/2024 11:56:22 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: marcusmaximus

The Freeper Russophile cabal still can’t grasp the fact they as alleged conservatives support the terrorists at war with Israel.


19 posted on 09/19/2024 12:02:59 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

So, the Freeper Russophile cabal is supporting Kamela in addition to the routine avid support of terrorists.


20 posted on 09/19/2024 12:04:42 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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