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It is incredible to me - the farms in Germany are staffed by Poles, the farms in Spain and Italy by Romanians and Bulgarians, while in Poland and Romania and Bulgaria, the work is done by Ukrainians or Asians.

This sounds like hard, long work and I'm going to guess much cheaper than robot labor.

In the USA it is the same with Mexican labor - the organic farms etc. would collapse without illegal migrants.

1 posted on 09/18/2024 4:55:19 AM PDT by Cronos
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You Vill Dig Untivl Vee Tell you to shtop digging!!!


2 posted on 09/18/2024 5:00:31 AM PDT by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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I don’t understand why people can’t work their own countries’ farms.


3 posted on 09/18/2024 5:05:07 AM PDT by yldstrk
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The old company store routine - it take 50 hours of work before one is out of debt - according to the article - there likely are more hidden fees.


5 posted on 09/18/2024 5:09:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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There is a two tiered ag worker situation in US, you’ve got the H2A guest worker program that is expensive, restrictive, and in very high demand...so many people from all over vying for a work visa. And then you have the illegals and whatever their situation is. I know more farms would participate in the H2A program if DOL didn’t suck so much and the fees were less. Regardless, you are correct, no foreigners = a lot less farm workers.


6 posted on 09/18/2024 5:37:26 AM PDT by small farm girl
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Oh wow...it never ends.


9 posted on 09/18/2024 5:57:04 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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The EU makes life hell for Brits wanting out of the EU but apparently does nothing about the lousy labor conditions on EU farms.


12 posted on 09/18/2024 6:07:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Kamala: "some people need more, so we all end up in the same place, right?”)
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“the organic farms etc. would collapse without illegal migrants.”

My opinion on Mexicans has changed ever since the massive explosion of illegals from all countries during the Biden/Harris regime’s term in office. The Biden/Harris illegals are from our enemies, are mostly military aged, many are criminals, many are gang members, and few of them offer anything of value to America. They are here to change America to the same hell hole they came from and that’s exactly what the rats want.

Most of the Mexican illegals that come here to work are basically good people that never engage in crime, are here to earn a better living and probably send most of their money home. The vast majority of these are not a threat to America, unless given the vote.

When Trump gets back into the WH and starts the mass deportations, I hope the good Mexican illegals are allowed to stay. Somehow or another let them be legal migrant workers.


13 posted on 09/18/2024 6:10:10 AM PDT by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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We need to make it so a family of 4 can make a comfortable living on 160 acres. These mega farms are nothing more than the old communist state farms of the old USSR except they are owned by corporations or billionaires.


16 posted on 09/18/2024 6:27:08 AM PDT by BobinIL
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Sounds similar to the work poor people had to do back in 1962 Ozarks.
Picking green beans, from sun up to sun down, a penny a pound. If after a rain the beans were heavy and you might make $5 on a good day. If after a dry spell you never made more than $2.80 even though you picked the same amount of beans.
In looking around at all those workers there were women with kids trying to make a few dollars a day while the husband was at his agricultural minimum pay job. All poor white people where we lived doing the picking.
It was so hot my brother passed out in the field. We realized the only way out was to get better educated and go some place where the jobs were better. My brother did it by working his way through college. My escape came in the form of a letter...”Greetings from the President of the United States.”


17 posted on 09/18/2024 6:27:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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In essence, there’s a lot of this that goes on around the world. Go to Saudi Arabia, Emirates, etc.; and you be hard pressed to find manual labor being done by the natives. That type of work is for the imported labor.

One company I deal has 18 languages spoken in their company. The labor is from Thailand, Phillipines, India, Malaysia, etc. All of the natives...they were in management.


18 posted on 09/18/2024 6:28:20 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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I worked MUCH longer hours for four summers at a cannery in Alaska. My longest paid week was for 121 1/2 hours - mandatory 1/2 hour break for breakfast, lunch & dinner. Not much sleep, room and board was provided though.

My base wage was $6.50 and this was in the late 80’s.


19 posted on 09/18/2024 6:34:21 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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“I owe my soul to the company store”


21 posted on 09/18/2024 6:54:12 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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Sixteen tons and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
Saint Peter doncha call me `cause I can't go.
I owe my soul to the company store.
23 posted on 09/18/2024 7:31:51 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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It’s strange how normal this weird existence seems after a while. Maybe that’s because by the evening, everyone is completely exhausted.


similar to German encampments during ww2

sheep can be conditioned.

http://learntocarry.com/files/On-Sheep-Wolves-And-Sheepdogs.pdf

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it
is like the pretty, blue robin’s egg. Inside it is soft and
gooey but someday it will grow into something
wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard
blue shell. Police officers, soldiers and other warriors are
like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect
will grow into something wonderful. For now, though,
they need warriors to protect them from the predators.


24 posted on 09/18/2024 7:44:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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In the USA it is the same with Mexican labor - the organic farms etc. would collapse without illegal migrants.

No they would just have to pay decent wages.

30 posted on 09/18/2024 8:16:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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My mother grew up near Grand Forks, ND and she would make extra money in the summer picking potatoes along with many others her age. Don’t tell me that Americans will not pick their own crops. You are just another disgusting globalist communist.


38 posted on 09/18/2024 8:34:47 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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HMMM

My organic farm in California employs 7 white US citizens and is thriving.

They are well paid and love where they work, rarely do they quit.

Our produce is outstanding. Some customers drive over an hour to buy from us.


40 posted on 09/18/2024 8:55:39 AM PDT by jcon40 (Leftists are usually obnoxious Bullies)
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Germans have a history of using Poles for slave labor.


41 posted on 09/18/2024 8:56:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Crops ripen and must be picked as fast as possible once they do.

They won’t wait for your weekend break.


59 posted on 09/18/2024 12:01:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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They can’t say “take this job and stuff it”?


74 posted on 09/18/2024 10:54:57 PM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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