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Man dies after wrong organ allegedly removed during surgery at Northwest Florida hospital
WEAR-TV3 Pensacola ^ | September 04, 2024 | Karris Harmon

Posted on 09/05/2024 7:07:04 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Diogenesis
"...no real blade would or could EVER confuse spleen and liver."

Well, in the surgeon's defense, they are both in the same general area. AND they are not clearly labeled.

61 posted on 09/05/2024 9:02:10 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: going hot

I didn’t know any of that.

Something is missing...and like someone said, there’s a surgical TEAM...no one noticed?

He had to be high or something more sinister is behind it.

But even crack wouldnt cause him to make this mistake!

Maybe LSD...but now i’m reaching :)


62 posted on 09/05/2024 9:17:58 AM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: gas_dr

Drug use is always bizarre. I used to give a few talks about drugs of abuse....
In the 60’s people would inject peanut butter, ink, smoke oregano, sniff glue,(toluene)
Sniffing nitrous oxide from aerosolized whip cream canisters was big lately.
Nowadays the mind altering drugs industry has way more compounds, natural and synthetic.
P.S. Dr propofol probably thought he was gonna get small syringe full of propofol...enough to knock him out for a few minutes, but not kill him.
One of my professors said that every culture has their drug of abuse...seems to be a human need to escape their life situation. Kat, betel nuts, chewing coca leaves, marijuana, ethanol, opiates, kratom. Xylazine, Etc


63 posted on 09/05/2024 9:38:49 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Red Badger
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2024/09/04/dr-shaknovsky-what-we-know-about-florida-surgeon-who-removed-liver/75073740007/

"After the procedure, Shaknovsky told Beverly Bryan, a nurse, the “spleen” was so diseased that it was four times bigger than usual and had “migrated” to the other side of Bill Bryan’s body."

"As Zarzaur’s legal team began looking into Bill Bryan’s death, they discovered this was not the first time Shaknovsky had mistakenly operated on the wrong part of a person’s body.
In a previous wrong-site surgery in 2023, Zarzaur said Shaknovsky mistakenly removed a portion of a patient’s pancreas instead of performing the intended adrenal gland resection (cutting out tissue or part of an organ) at the same hospital."

That man should never be allowed to practice medicine again...
64 posted on 09/05/2024 9:59:11 AM PDT by grateful
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To: Red Badger

ISN’T THERE A LARGE DIFFERENCE in SIZE between those 2 organs????


65 posted on 09/05/2024 10:00:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: EinNYC

No idea. I’m retired from all that and never a surgical nurse but I just do not know how anyone with surgical training can mistake a liver for a spleen.


66 posted on 09/05/2024 10:16:37 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: FamiliarFace; Red Badger

Umm. You don’t need a pit bull for this. Joe Pesci character in My Cousin Vinnie could pull it off. Licensing board will take his license. Could be prosecuted for criminal neglect.

On the civil side, wrongful death statutes vary greatly from state to state. This is how it would turn out in CA; your results may vary:

Liability would be stipulated. No punitive damages in wrongful death. The measure of damages is the “loss of comfort, society and support,” The defense would successfully try to keep out the details so as to avoid having the jury essentially levying punitive damages

But this case won’t see the inside of a courtroom. Physicals have veto power vis a vis their carrier over whether a case will settle. This doctor will not care because he’s going to lose his license anyway. Settlement value IN CALIFORNIA would be $5-10 million


67 posted on 09/05/2024 10:21:15 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Red Badger

I honestly believe I could have performed the surgery better.

Sad, every institution in the US is being taken down by incompetent people destroying trust and brands.

Losing our aerospace, technology, medical, farming, national identity.

Things that set us apart are coming down— I am of the belief it’s by design.


68 posted on 09/05/2024 10:41:10 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: ridesthemiles

Quite so, and on opposite sides of the body...................


69 posted on 09/05/2024 10:41:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Irenic

Deuteronomy 28 New International Version

Blessings for Obedience

28 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

7 The Lord will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

8 The Lord will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The Lord your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

9 The Lord will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the Lord your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you. 11 The Lord will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.

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Curses for Disobedience

15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:

16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.

30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.

36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the Lord will drive you.

38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.

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45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the Lord your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the Lord sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you.

53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.

58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— 59 the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. 63 Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.


70 posted on 09/05/2024 10:46:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

I would hope so

Especially since he had the great pancreas heist during a adrenalectomy a few years ago


71 posted on 09/05/2024 11:00:10 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Don’t piss them off by even the slightest suggestion of asking if they know what they are doing. I have done that and it didn’t work out well. You are supposed to bow and ask permission to kiss the ring.


72 posted on 09/05/2024 11:23:18 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Red Badger
To be fair, the hospital is in the next county east of Destin..............

Just to clarify, the hospital is in Walton County. Correct. I had a place there for years, less than two miles west of the hospital on Hwy 98 adjacent to Sandestin. My address was Destin, even though I was in Walton County, too; the headline in the story referenced Destin so that poor soul could have been residing either in Okaloosa or Walton. That's what it was called when I was there and that's what everybody else called it.

In any event, he's not in either now.

73 posted on 09/05/2024 2:59:55 PM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Red Badger

Lol! EXACTLY! 😎


74 posted on 09/05/2024 3:05:37 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Sequoyah101
Don’t piss them off by even the slightest suggestion of asking if they know what they are doing. I have done that and it didn’t work out well. You are supposed to bow and ask permission to kiss the ring.

I was just joking around but you are SO CORRECT! I directed a TV series called AMERICAN HEALTH NETWORK and interviewed medical doctors and pros of all specialties. Many are borderline autistic and too many have zero sense of humor with a monster ego. One in twenty are super control freaks! I would tread carefully.

75 posted on 09/05/2024 3:10:01 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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76 posted on 09/05/2024 3:23:24 PM PDT by Johnny Wumbo
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