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Yacht Rock Essentials: “We Just Disagree,” Rock Journeyman Dave Mason’s Biggest Hit
American Songwriter ^ | September 1, 2024 | Jim Beviglia

Posted on 09/04/2024 5:03:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

There are some artists who released many songs throughout their career that clearly fit into the yacht rock template. And then there are a few who kind of accidentally dipped their toes into that warm ocean water. Dave Mason, a British classic rocker, probably stands as one of the most unlikely Yacht Rock standard-bearers, thanks to his 1977 hit “We Just Disagree.”

What is the song about? Who wrote it? And how did it go against the grain of what Mason usually released? Here is the story of one of the most heartbreaking yacht rock standards, “We Just Disagree.”

Mason’s Journey

Dave Mason’s track record will stun you. On the surface level, he’s best known as an early member of Traffic and a songwriter whose best tracks, “Feelin’ Alright” and “Only You Know and I Know,” were recorded by others and turned into classics. But dig a little deeper, and you’ll find it’s as impressive a CV as you’ll find.

He played on indelible tracks by Jim Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, and many others. Top acts returned the favor, with luminaries like Harrison, Graham Nash, and Stevie Wonder playing on his solo stuff. Mason even ended up in Fleetwood Mac for a cup of coffee in the ’90s.

As a solo act, he had a hard time gaining commercial traction in the ’70s, at least until record mogul Clive Davis signed him at Columbia Records. But the mercurial Davis left the label not long after, leaving Mason a bit adrift at the label but still owing them a lot of material. Luckily, he found some help from a new member of his band.

The Bruiser to the Rescue

Mason’s first album for Columbia, It’s Like You Never Left in 1973, was an all-star affair. When it failed to do much sales-wise, Mason decided to put together a regular backing band that could take material out on the road. One of his new cohorts was a guitar player named Jim Krueger, nicknamed “The Bruiser,” who also offered some songwriting ability.

When Mason was making his 1977 album Let It Flow, Krueger came forward with a heartsick ballad for inclusion. “We Just Disagree” wasn’t typical of what Mason usually delivered around that time, as he was more known for a kind of free-flowing rock approach than straightforward slow stuff. But, as he told Songfacts, he didn’t hesitate for a second when he heard Krueger’s track:

“I did it because I thought it was a great song. An unusual chord arrangement behind it. And it stood up—it was a song that when he sang it to me, it was like, ‘Yeah, that’s the song.’ Just him and a guitar, which is usually how I judge whether I’m going to do something. If it holds up like that I’ll put the rest of the icing on it.”

What is the Meaning of “We Just Disagree”?

Mason and Krueger, who, as traveling musicians, had seen their fair share of heartbreak, gravitated to this tale of two ex-lovers undergoing a stilted reunion. The guy struggles to make sense of how they went from such intimacy to this distance: Don’t seem the same, seems you’ve lost your feel for me.

Krueger’s lyrics cycle through the emotional spectrum, as he naturally treats her with kindness, only to remember all the bad stuff that’s gone down between them: Have you got a place to stay? / Why should I care when I’m just trying to get along. In the refrains, he decides it’s best that they stay apart rather than trying to tiptoe through the old land mines: So let’s leave it alone ’cause we can’t see eye to eye / There ain’t no good guy / There ain’t no bad guy / There’s only you and me and we just disagree.

Jim Krueger passed away in 1993 at only 43 years old, meaning he didn’t live quite long enough to witness the yacht rock sensation that gave his most famous song second life. As for Dave Mason, “We Just Disagree,” a Top-20 hit, became a signature song for him, despite it being somewhat uncharacteristic of most of his output.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: 70s; davemason; rock; softrock; traffic; yachtrock
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Dave Mason-We Just Disagree
1 posted on 09/04/2024 5:03:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It’s really a major a.m. radio essential from that time. Perfect record.


2 posted on 09/04/2024 5:06:37 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2024)
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To: nickcarraway

Great great song!!


3 posted on 09/04/2024 5:10:05 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: nickcarraway

Totally subjective...I thought “Feelin’ Alright” and “Only You Know and I Know” were great tunes, but IMO “We Just Disagree” was a snoozer and devoid of dynamics.


4 posted on 09/04/2024 5:10:07 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: nickcarraway

So high rock me baby and roll me away.


5 posted on 09/04/2024 5:12:15 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: nickcarraway

Give Dave’s rendition of “Along the Watchtower” a spin, it’s great.


6 posted on 09/04/2024 5:17:36 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!s)
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To: nickcarraway

Billy Dean covered it in 1993.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOwAQrvslOI

He had several successful songs in the early 90s. My son William (1994) was called Billy as a young boy, on account of Billy Dean. He calls himself Will these days, though. He lives in New York City and works in advertising for a bank.


7 posted on 09/04/2024 5:18:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: hercuroc

Only you know and I know. Delaney and Bonnie on tour with Eric Clapton. “I don’t want to discuss it” followed that song. Clapton doing a beautiful solo.

Delanie and Bonny were 2 pretty hard core leftists but then most artists are.


8 posted on 09/04/2024 5:18:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SamAdams76

Ping


9 posted on 09/04/2024 5:20:37 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: nickcarraway
1). There is no such thing as an essential Yacht rock song because they're all horrible.

2) This one not only has the typically bland yacht rock instrumentation, but incredibly schmaltzy lyrics as well. Would have been rejected for some terrible 70's "Movie of the Week" about divorce.

10 posted on 09/04/2024 5:23:16 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Dave Mason (1974), I know every song by heart.
All Along the Watchtower,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6D27zT_iko&pp=ygUjZGF2ZSBtYXNvbiBhbGwgYWxvbmcgdGhlIHdhdGNodG93ZXI%3D


11 posted on 09/04/2024 5:26:35 PM PDT by thepoodlebites (and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.)
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i don’t know from Yacht Rock, but it still hurts sometimes...


12 posted on 09/04/2024 5:33:22 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
We Just Disagree is not yacht rock. Not even close. There are almost no yacht rock elements in that song.
13 posted on 09/04/2024 5:34:19 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: nickcarraway
Saw Dave Mason and Jim Krueger at an actual yacht bistro in FL in the early 1980's. Hands-down one of the best shows I've ever seen, evah. My date, an au-pair from Sweden who happened to a classically-trained pianist (and therefore the real deal) was even more amazed at the sound those two created, just the two of them. I still can remember the vocal harmonies of that song reverberating through my bones.

At the same venue, around the same time (with a different date), I had the happy occasion of seeing Pure Prairie League, in a lineup that contained Al Garth. Again, tremendous show -- something about that room -- and Al led the most rousing rendition of "Willie and the Hand Jive" that I have ever heard. Evah! Rock on, kiddies.

14 posted on 09/04/2024 5:34:52 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: Magic Fingers

Apples and oranges, hombre.


15 posted on 09/04/2024 5:36:28 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: FoxInSocks
We Just Disagree is not yacht rock.

I guess we just disagree.

Heh.

Of course it's yacht rock! It's got that quintessentially annoying smoothness, the "mature" lyrics< and would fit right in with pretty much anything by Michael McDonald. It's from 1977 - smack dab in the middle of the yacht rock/easy listening era.

Google "yacht rock" and "We Just Disagree", and there are plenty of cross-references. Most of the music press considers it pretty squarely in the yacht rock category. Here's a list of the "Top 50 Yacht rock songs", and We just disagree is at 40 or so.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/best-yacht-rock-songs/

Down with yacht rock!

16 posted on 09/04/2024 6:02:13 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: nickcarraway

I sat at a bar in St. Thomas and had a beer with Dave Mason, who lived on the island, back in 1989. I was on my honeymoon at the time. He was much more interesting to talk to than my new wife. A couple days later, Hurricane Hugo visited and destroyed the island, stranding my wife and I there for a couple of weeks. The hurricane was an omen for my marriage.


17 posted on 09/04/2024 6:09:35 PM PDT by KevinB (Word for the day: "kakistocracy" - a society governed by its least suitable or competent thicitizens)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The guys who invented the term yacht rock — and still rate songs every week on their podcast — gave We Just Disagree 17.75 out of 100 points. Careless Whisper by Wham! is rated higher.

Songs at 50 and above are considered yacht rock. Songs below 50 are . . . nyacht. It’s the Yachtski scale. They know of what they speak. That’s my go-to source. :-)

18 posted on 09/04/2024 6:24:36 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: nickcarraway

Not yacht rock. But a great song. I heard him call Rush one time.


19 posted on 09/04/2024 6:31:30 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: FoxInSocks
And the term Yacht Rock does not automatically mean good. I think the score they give is the thing that confuses most people. (By the way one of the arbiters of the genre is a commie)

I see people on social media begging others to accept the song they like as yacht rock, as if it even matters.

20 posted on 09/04/2024 6:33:55 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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