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The stranded Boeing Starliner astronauts planned to hitch a ride home with SpaceX, but their space suits aren’t compatible with Elon Musk’s spacecraft
Fortune ^ | August 22, 2024 | Marco Quiroz-Gutierrez

Posted on 08/30/2024 4:43:32 PM PDT by george76

After being stranded on the International Space Station since June, two astronaut castaways may still be months away from returning to Earth—in part because of incompatible space suits.

The two astronauts, Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, have had to extend what was supposed to be an eight-day trip on the ISS, because of a helium leak and thruster malfunctions on their Boeing-made Starliner spacecraft. NASA and Boeing are testing to see if it’s safe for the astronauts to return on the Boeing Starliner, but are also considering alternatives given the possible risks.

NASA has yet to make a decision, but one of those alternatives includes sending the astronauts home on a Dragon spacecraft, manufactured by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, that is already docked at the station, a representative from the space agency said during a press conference last week, Ars Technica reported.

Yet, that approach comes with complications, as explained by Swapna Krishna, the journalist behind the space-themed YouTube channel Ad Astra. If NASA chose that option, Wilmore and Williams would be the fifth and sixth astronauts on a spacecraft that’s limited to four passengers. And because their Starliner suits aren’t compatible with the Dragon spacecraft, they would have to return to Earth without suits on, which isn’t inherently dangerous, but offers them less protection in case something goes wrong with the capsule.

The differing suit designs and plugs for the Starliner and Dragon spacecraft comes down to a new process for commercial crewed space missions that NASA has implemented. Previously, NASA was extremely involved in the manufacture and testing of spacecraft and space suits.

Yet since the 2010s when NASA developed the commercial crew program, it has given private companies more freedom in how they develop and manufacture equipment for the agency, including space suits, as long as it meets broad safety requirements. For instance, NASA didn’t specify that space suits for each commercial spacecraft need to be cross-compatible with one another. In fact, having two different suit designs for each spacecraft could also be beneficial, according to Krishna.

“If the suits used the same type of plug, and some sort of flaw was found within that plug or some other sort of standardized connector, it would ground both spacecraft,” she said in a Sunday video.

A spokesperson for Boeing referred a request for comment to NASA. NASA and SpaceX did not immediately respond to requests for comment. NASA has said the astronauts are not “stranded” on the ISS.

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Another alternative is sending the astronauts home on a different Dragon spacecraft that’s set to reach the ISS in September. This ship could reach the space station with only two of its usual four crew members and could send up extra (Dragon-compatible) space suits, which would allow Wilmore and Williams to return to Earth fully suited in the two unfilled seats.

But if NASA chose this alternative, the Starliner ship that the astronauts originally flew in would have to undock and return to Earth autonomously to make room for the Dragon spacecraft arriving in September, and Boeing has said it might not be able to do that. Because of the way Boeing’s contract with NASA is structured, the company has had to absorb the extra costs associated with the technical failures of its Starliner. The company has already taken about $1.6 billion in charges on its Starliner program.

If the Starliner left the space station without a crew, the astronauts on the ISS would also have to install two extra seats on the remaining Dragon spacecraft until the next Dragon arrives, because the remaining docked ship must provide enough seats to accommodate all of the NASA astronauts in case of an emergency.

The marooned astronauts would need to take the place of the two astronauts pulled from the Dragon mission to accommodate them, which would keep them aboard the ISS until the regular rotation ends in February 2025. That would mean turning what was supposed to be just over a weeklong mission into eight months. Although both astronauts have completed longer missions on the ISS before, those were filled with less uncertainty. Wilmore’s wife told a CBS station in Knoxville that she is preparing for her husband to miss Christmas and the couple’s 30th wedding anniversary.


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1 posted on 08/30/2024 4:43:32 PM PDT by george76
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Send some suits up for them on the Dragon.


2 posted on 08/30/2024 4:46:24 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: george76

NASA: Hey, Elon, can you pick our astronauts up from the space station?

Elon: Ugh. Fine.

NASA: And can you bring up a couple of spare spacesuits?

Elon: What?!


3 posted on 08/30/2024 4:48:20 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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To: george76

What? No standardized space suits? :)


4 posted on 08/30/2024 4:48:37 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: VTenigma
Send some suits up for them on the Dragon.

Yeah, that would be my first thought.

Granted that would leave less room for supplies on the way up but having two extra people on the station is also a strain on supplies.

5 posted on 08/30/2024 4:48:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: george76

Duct tape - the handyman’s secret weapon.


6 posted on 08/30/2024 4:49:44 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: george76

They have a clown named Bill Nelson running NASA these days...another wornout political hack!


7 posted on 08/30/2024 4:50:03 PM PDT by Brandonmark (November 2024 cannot come soon enough!)
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To: george76
Sounds like a scene from Apollo 13. "We need to make this, fit into the hole for this, using nothing but that".
8 posted on 08/30/2024 4:50:08 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Brandonmark

Reminds me of the old fox, chicken and sack of grain across the river puzzle


9 posted on 08/30/2024 4:50:55 PM PDT by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: VTenigma

Shhhh! You’re gonna steal all the clickbait headlines from the reporters who don’t bother to do 45 seconds of research, or think past the end of their noses.


10 posted on 08/30/2024 4:51:44 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: VTenigma
Indeed. This is why the date of February is necessary to bring them back. It takes time to build these suits. NASA will give the astronauts specific body dimensions to Spacex for them to have tailored suits made.

This isn't rocket science, sheesh!

11 posted on 08/30/2024 4:52:04 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Boeing: “I wish people would quit saying they’re stranded. They’re NOT stranded, they just can’t come home right now”.


12 posted on 08/30/2024 4:52:22 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Three conspiracy theorists walk into the bar . . . . same time . . coincidence? I think not.)
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To: george76

Fer crissake, even the Russians made their aircraft fuel fittings compatible with US stuff.

These clowns all used a different design standard?


13 posted on 08/30/2024 4:53:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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To: george76

Fer crissake, even the Russians made their aircraft fuel fittings compatible with US stuff.

These clowns all used a different design standard?


14 posted on 08/30/2024 4:54:49 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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dupe, slow connection


15 posted on 08/30/2024 4:55:20 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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To: george76

If I was Elon, the only way those astronauts would come back on my ship is if Boeing agreed to jettison their hunk of metal into the Sun.

Then and only then would I let anyone hitch a ride home. Oh, and Boeing would have to agree to make a public statement that it was a SpaceX vessel that had to rescue their astronauts.


16 posted on 08/30/2024 4:57:41 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: george76

Iwonder these people up there are not going crazy by now. What an ordeal!


17 posted on 08/30/2024 4:57:46 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: george76

kinda highlights the need to store a few extra suits on the space station


18 posted on 08/30/2024 4:59:34 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: george76

This is an old, outdated article. It’s been posted before.

The Starliner astronauts are coming back on SpaceX Dragon in February 2025. SpaceX is bringing up two suits fitted for those astronauts.


19 posted on 08/30/2024 5:01:13 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Disambiguator
> Duct tape - the handyman’s secret weapon. <

Red Green, is that you?


20 posted on 08/30/2024 5:01:22 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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