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Red meat consumption associated with increased type 2 diabetes risk
Harvard School of Public Health ^ | October 19, 2023 | Maya Brownstein

Posted on 08/27/2024 8:16:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey

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To: one guy in new jersey

It is bogus. “Diet was assessed with food frequency questionnaires every two to four years, for up to 36 years.” That, alone, makes it bogus. This is a comment from Zoe Harcombe on a different study saying the same thing:

“When we looked at Gu et al last October, the definition of meat was one of the major issues. Based on a 1980 Food Frequency Questionnaire (FFQ), processed red meats included beef or pork hot dogs; bacon; processed meat sandwiches; and other processed meats such as sausage. Unprocessed red meats included lean or extra lean hamburger; regular hamburger; beef, pork, or lamb as a sandwich or mixed dish (stew, casserole, lasagna etc); pork as a main dish; and beef or lamb as a main dish. The sandwich/lasagna (carbohydrate) confounder was therefore present in both processed and unprocessed red meat categories.”

That is on top of the silliness of pretending someone knows with any precision how much they ate of what foods during the previous 4 years!

“a new study led by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health”

The Harvard school is dominated by vegans. They ALWAYS attack eating any meat!

“Participants who ate the most red meat had a 62% higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes compared to those who ate the least.”

As always - meat will not spike insulin. But many who eat a lot of meat also eat a lot of other foods, including lots of carbs and simple sugars. A fat person eating a lot will also eat more meat than a lean person who doesn’t eat as much.

When I went keto 7 years ago, my calorie consumption drifted down. I now take in about half the calories I used to eat simply because I’m not hungry! This is a good thing, not a fault - with the price of food being what it is, eating half as much while still full is a blessing!

But there is no attempt in this study to deal with the healthy person issue: Healthy people LIVE differently, and there is no way - truly NO WAY - to account for that statistically.

If they wanted to know if meat eating resulted in diabetes, it would be a simple test: Look at carnivores living almost entirely on meat. Do THEY get diabetes? According to this study, I ought to be super diabetic. But I’m not. Not close. On Medicare and in better shape the the majority of current 30 year olds.

But they don’t WANT to know the truth!


41 posted on 08/27/2024 8:34:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: hoagy62

Thanks h62


42 posted on 08/27/2024 8:35:10 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

@In addition to health benefits, swapping red meat for healthy plant protein sources would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions and climate change, and provide other environmental benefits, according to the researchers.“


43 posted on 08/27/2024 8:36:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: kaktuskid

I ignore all diets. Don’t want to know keto or any other diet. I have already burned 84 candles. Don’t have a single health issue. Zero medical expenses. No aches or pains anywhere. My 2 keys are daily aerobic activity and moderate consumption of variety of foods. I forbid no food items. Only thing I avoid is coffee because it stimulates acid production in my stomach.


44 posted on 08/27/2024 8:36:29 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: RatRipper

Instead of doing this type of study, why not put the energy into finding a cure and be rid of diabetes all together? Seems more prudent.


45 posted on 08/27/2024 8:36:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you Mr. R.


46 posted on 08/27/2024 8:37:59 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Here we go again. Like a yo-yo.


47 posted on 08/27/2024 8:39:18 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: one guy in new jersey

BS. Beef has been consumed for hundreds of years with no diabetes issues. So what is different with beef products now? It’s the things they add into the beef and how they are raised and the feed they are fed, which isn’t green grass.


48 posted on 08/27/2024 8:39:37 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: one guy in new jersey

Just another excuse for the enviro nit wits to ban meat consumption. If we don’t win in November, it’s coming.


49 posted on 08/27/2024 8:39:56 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: one guy in new jersey

Oh let’s just cut to the chase: EVERYTHING CAUSES DIABETES!


50 posted on 08/27/2024 8:40:16 AM PDT by TalBlack (Fight Fight Fight America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOJdMog6T0)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Did the study group eat red meat ONLY or were donuts and cake also part of the diet?

The reason I ask is that a red meat consumption as part of keto is quite a bit different than red meat consumption in combination with a bunch of high-carb and sugary foods.

51 posted on 08/27/2024 8:41:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people accept what they're told by the media.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Please let me know just as soon the Obama/Harris/Pelosi crowd give up their prime rib.


52 posted on 08/27/2024 8:42:12 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: RoosterRedux

Excellent question and related point.

This “study” is deliberately half-baked and deceptive.


53 posted on 08/27/2024 8:43:19 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ryderann

Yup.


54 posted on 08/27/2024 8:43:46 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

It sounds like this study might have been funded by Pepperidge Farms, Sara Lee, and Kellogg’s.;-)


55 posted on 08/27/2024 8:43:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people accept what they're told by the media.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes!


56 posted on 08/27/2024 8:44:09 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Red Meat Lies

Dr. Berg is a little kooky about some things, but he's right on the money most of the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFtMw2ow95M

57 posted on 08/27/2024 8:44:11 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: one guy in new jersey

Everything kills you. That’s why the old folks said “All things in moderation.”


58 posted on 08/27/2024 8:45:24 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

Only one chance to cure type 2. Practice 16 hour fasting every day for 6 months.


59 posted on 08/27/2024 8:45:30 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Harvard Health can shove it.


60 posted on 08/27/2024 8:46:27 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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