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1 posted on 08/21/2024 2:30:39 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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you only wish zeep


2 posted on 08/21/2024 2:32:00 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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Must be feelin’ like Joe Biden.


3 posted on 08/21/2024 2:32:19 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Do you think Heels Up can save Ukraine?

4 posted on 08/21/2024 2:33:53 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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It will be a glorious day when the Eurotrash are nuked to smithereens. Yes, this also means the end of Russia and the world as we know it, but to finally see the end of woke liberal snotty Europeans will be worth it. /spit


7 posted on 08/21/2024 2:45:19 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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Rope sales on the rise in Russia!


10 posted on 08/21/2024 2:55:54 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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Medvedev: Ukr Talks Trap; Rus Takes Zhelanne; Storms Novogrodivka; Ex US General: Ukr Kursk Folly

Road To Pokrovsk Is Wide Open For Russian Forces

11 posted on 08/21/2024 2:59:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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You and your sources have almost a perfect track record, Marcus — you’ve been consistently wrong.


12 posted on 08/21/2024 3:01:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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If I had to guess, this is Ukraine’s attempt to do the same thing as when Russia took a shot at Kiev.

Not a bad idea, in general.

This is a huge front (>1,200 miles of border), and in reality only some areas are being fought over and have large troop concentrations. So you find some soft spot along the Ukrainian/Russian border, ideally that has some military value, and punch through, going deep and far, hopefully causing Russia to react.

This causes (ideally) Russia to pull forces from those areas that are bitterly embattled in the East.

But, Russia isn’t stupid. The slow response is because instead of a knee-jerk and doing what Ukraine wants, Russia will push the Ukrainians back out, but the Russians didn’t react quite the way Ukraine had hoped. Other than the face-slap to Russia, is there an operational or strategic level impact this incursion can have if the Russians do not react? Kiev had an obvious value, but this? My initial assessment is that this is more PR stunt than militarily practical (affecting Russia militarily / economically / etc). The limited Russian response is because of the lack in a “so-what” factor.

Sadly, we are treated like mushrooms, so we don’t get true enemy BDA and friendly casualty/material loss reports. Every side has them. Even NATO and our DoD have them. But we get fed BS in order to react the way the puppet masters want us too. And our “watchdog of democracy” and “free” MSM plays along.

—The real determinant if this operation was a success IMHO is if Russia pulls forces that were in the East and you see a noticeable slowing of the Russian creep forward and easing off of the pressure in the East?

Did the mission achieve its desired objective?

—Also a factor in determining success or failure are the losses, i.e. what was the cost to Ukraine and Russia?

Was the ROI acceptable, i.e. did we get a great deal, break even or pay far-far to much for this?

Yes, as disgusting as it sounds, it is all about numbers (the McNamara Vietnam body counts).

In this case, it’s not a fallacy. It is actually in this case, fairly telling, since it’s a protracted war of attrition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNamara_fallacy

But in those regards, i.e. the news that really matters and would let me determine on my own what the outcome is/was, will be entirely buried assuming it was ever released in the first place. Nothing but junk/trash news that tells me absolutely nothing.

You have to use correlating indicators to make assumptions, but are not provided any actionable information.

Imaginary numbers of Russian casualties that are far inflated, entirely missing Ukrainian casualties and material losses. BUT lots of trash stories about some glorious Ukrainian fighter or evil Russian action that is intended to stir up emotions. Some story again about a Russian missed bomb, or Putin freaking out and having some mental disease etc. (Our news kept talking about that since 2014 but ignored the obvious decline of Biden as he mumbled, stumbled and fumbled when not staring emptily into space).


20 posted on 08/21/2024 3:40:59 PM PDT by Red6
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Brave Sir Zeeper ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Zeeper turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Zeeper!


21 posted on 08/21/2024 5:21:27 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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23 posted on 08/21/2024 5:54:55 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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Russia is not running a Special Military Operation in their Kursk region
Russia launched a Counter Terrorism Operation
Chechans and Wagners, supported by army hardware and Intelligence experts, are killing the Terrorists. Taking prisioners is not an option

Terrorists supply lines and paths for reinforcements are erased.
Terrorists get blown up real good when they pop up out of their hiding spots....


27 posted on 08/22/2024 4:41:56 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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