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Vladimir Putin on the brink over Kursk response as supporters ask one major question
Express UK ^ | 8/21/2024 | Aurora Bosotti

Posted on 08/21/2024 2:30:39 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin's slow response to the incursion of Ukrainian forces into the border region of Kursk could ultimately leave him facing the wrath of his long-time enablers.

Russia was caught unprepared by the offensive and reportedly is drafting conscripts to repel some of Ukraine's most battle-hardened units.

Putin has a history of responding slowly to various crises in his tenure, and he has so far played down the attack.

In his 24 years in power, Putin has portrayed himself as the only person who can guarantee Russia's security and stability but that image has suffered since the war began.

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: aurorabosotti; dailyzeeperporn; kursk; kurskoffensive; onelinertrolling; rundstedtoffensive; russia; thetrolling; tothelastukrainian; zeeperporn
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1 posted on 08/21/2024 2:30:39 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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you only wish zeep


2 posted on 08/21/2024 2:32:00 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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To: marcusmaximus

Must be feelin’ like Joe Biden.


3 posted on 08/21/2024 2:32:19 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: marcusmaximus
Do you think Heels Up can save Ukraine?

4 posted on 08/21/2024 2:33:53 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: A strike

The fantasize that his inner circle would replace Putin with a western banker friendly and approved WEF opposition type. They have no idea that almost everyone there would replace him with someone much more hard liner.


5 posted on 08/21/2024 2:36:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

President Trump will eat Putin’s lunch. Putin is an incompetent dunce.


6 posted on 08/21/2024 2:40:18 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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It will be a glorious day when the Eurotrash are nuked to smithereens. Yes, this also means the end of Russia and the world as we know it, but to finally see the end of woke liberal snotty Europeans will be worth it. /spit


7 posted on 08/21/2024 2:45:19 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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The media and propagandists are acting like this Ukraine incursion over the border is the Wehrmacht of 1941 ready to take Moscow. Ukraine cannot sustain anything in this war and every effort and intention is bleeding them dry literally and figuratively. The USA and Europe can’t keep backing Zelensky forever.


8 posted on 08/21/2024 2:53:28 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: marcusmaximus

<< President Trump will eat Putin’s lunch. >>

Yep. And he already has. Vlad behaved when the Don was CIC, thanks to at least one very frank phone call.


9 posted on 08/21/2024 2:54:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: marcusmaximus
Rope sales on the rise in Russia!


10 posted on 08/21/2024 2:55:54 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: marcusmaximus
Medvedev: Ukr Talks Trap; Rus Takes Zhelanne; Storms Novogrodivka; Ex US General: Ukr Kursk Folly

Road To Pokrovsk Is Wide Open For Russian Forces

11 posted on 08/21/2024 2:59:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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You and your sources have almost a perfect track record, Marcus — you’ve been consistently wrong.


12 posted on 08/21/2024 3:01:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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Trump will end the war in Ukraine -- quickly.
13 posted on 08/21/2024 3:02:40 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Apparatchik

The hangman is coming for Zelensky. It’s just a matter who finishes him off first — the CIA, the neo-Nazis in Ukraine or the Russians.


14 posted on 08/21/2024 3:03:46 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: A strike; Right_Wing_Madman; Flavious_Maximus; shanover; Kazan

Aurora Bosotti is quite the “credible jernalist”.

The Putin died in summer 2022:

Putin health fears reignited as Russian despot seen shaking uncontrollably in new footage

Express UK ^ | 6/12/2022 | AURORA BOSOTTI
Posted on 6/12/2022, 12:27:11 PM by marcusmaximus

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4070573/posts


15 posted on 08/21/2024 3:05:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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Hopefully he will but I don’t think he will do it in the way you think. Trump is no fan of Russia.


16 posted on 08/21/2024 3:08:36 PM PDT by Petrosius
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The hangman is coming for Zelensky.

He's just a puppet.

17 posted on 08/21/2024 3:13:39 PM PDT by montag813
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The hangman is coming for Zelensky. It’s just a matter who finishes him off first — the CIA, the neo-Nazis in Ukraine or the Russians.

Well, the Russians sure have been trying. And, like in all things Russian, failing.

Assassination attempts on Volodymyr Zelenskyy
18 posted on 08/21/2024 3:15:13 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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Its fun to imagine Putin is an incompetent dictator and defeating him will be easy. He unfortunately isn’t stupid. We must be wary—he has plans for Ukraine and Mr. Zelenskyy as well as England and the USA. Harris will have her hands full trying to keep up with Putin’s revenge. Remember, when you fight Russia, you also fight, Iran, North Korea and China. A bit of Russian help and Iran can sink US ships. China moves on Taiwan—North Korea ans Russia can bottle up Japan. If war comes the first thing to go will be the panama canal.


19 posted on 08/21/2024 3:32:54 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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If I had to guess, this is Ukraine’s attempt to do the same thing as when Russia took a shot at Kiev.

Not a bad idea, in general.

This is a huge front (>1,200 miles of border), and in reality only some areas are being fought over and have large troop concentrations. So you find some soft spot along the Ukrainian/Russian border, ideally that has some military value, and punch through, going deep and far, hopefully causing Russia to react.

This causes (ideally) Russia to pull forces from those areas that are bitterly embattled in the East.

But, Russia isn’t stupid. The slow response is because instead of a knee-jerk and doing what Ukraine wants, Russia will push the Ukrainians back out, but the Russians didn’t react quite the way Ukraine had hoped. Other than the face-slap to Russia, is there an operational or strategic level impact this incursion can have if the Russians do not react? Kiev had an obvious value, but this? My initial assessment is that this is more PR stunt than militarily practical (affecting Russia militarily / economically / etc). The limited Russian response is because of the lack in a “so-what” factor.

Sadly, we are treated like mushrooms, so we don’t get true enemy BDA and friendly casualty/material loss reports. Every side has them. Even NATO and our DoD have them. But we get fed BS in order to react the way the puppet masters want us too. And our “watchdog of democracy” and “free” MSM plays along.

—The real determinant if this operation was a success IMHO is if Russia pulls forces that were in the East and you see a noticeable slowing of the Russian creep forward and easing off of the pressure in the East?

Did the mission achieve its desired objective?

—Also a factor in determining success or failure are the losses, i.e. what was the cost to Ukraine and Russia?

Was the ROI acceptable, i.e. did we get a great deal, break even or pay far-far to much for this?

Yes, as disgusting as it sounds, it is all about numbers (the McNamara Vietnam body counts).

In this case, it’s not a fallacy. It is actually in this case, fairly telling, since it’s a protracted war of attrition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNamara_fallacy

But in those regards, i.e. the news that really matters and would let me determine on my own what the outcome is/was, will be entirely buried assuming it was ever released in the first place. Nothing but junk/trash news that tells me absolutely nothing.

You have to use correlating indicators to make assumptions, but are not provided any actionable information.

Imaginary numbers of Russian casualties that are far inflated, entirely missing Ukrainian casualties and material losses. BUT lots of trash stories about some glorious Ukrainian fighter or evil Russian action that is intended to stir up emotions. Some story again about a Russian missed bomb, or Putin freaking out and having some mental disease etc. (Our news kept talking about that since 2014 but ignored the obvious decline of Biden as he mumbled, stumbled and fumbled when not staring emptily into space).


20 posted on 08/21/2024 3:40:59 PM PDT by Red6
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