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1 posted on 08/14/2024 6:51:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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The left wants scarcity and rationing. Cheap and plentiful is NOT what they want.


2 posted on 08/14/2024 6:51:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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Quickly ... somebody must advise PG&E that natural gas is at “the lowest price level ... in 20 years and probably ever in the history of mankind.” The utility doesn’t appear to be aware of this!


4 posted on 08/14/2024 6:57:10 AM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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NG is insanely cheap. It could fuel a booming economy if the left was not so anti industry.


5 posted on 08/14/2024 6:58:10 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( )
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Just a few years ago, the price in real dollars was four times higher.

Yep, and now that it is "cheaper" the Left wants to ban it saying it's not clean energy, sheesh.

6 posted on 08/14/2024 6:59:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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He shouldn’t compare raw commodity natural gas prices with retail premium brand bottled water. He should either compare with the cost of tap water, or compare no name bottled water with the cost of propane tanks.


7 posted on 08/14/2024 7:05:00 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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Energy IS the economy

The great irony is - America’s energy abundance, which exists in spite of the left, nonetheless funds all their woke social-engineering schemes and bloated Fed.gov. Biden and Harris practically only exist because of it. Sheer dumb luck for them


8 posted on 08/14/2024 7:06:00 AM PDT by PGR88
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The United States WILL BE the leader in petroleum production IN THE WORLD and there is nothing the liberals can do about it.


9 posted on 08/14/2024 7:07:41 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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I always get confused because the left does not consider nuclear power to be clean green energy.

Nuclear power plants produce zero of the dreaded Greenhouse gases. Yet the left has really used their muscle to restrict new nuclear plants being built.

And with all this going on the left wants us all to drive electric cars. ,But then, we don’t have the electrical generating capacity to recharge hundreds of millions of vehicles overnight.

Even if we could magically have a mostly electric vehicle Fleet in this country,, we do not have the ability as of right now to recharge all those vehicles in a timely manner


10 posted on 08/14/2024 7:08:24 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Not a fair comparison, because you don’t buy natural gas by the 12 oz bottle at the store.

Compare the cost of 100 cubic feet of natural gas to the cost of 100 cubic feet of water, as they are delivered to your home via underground piping, and you’ll find water is much, much cheaper than natural gas.


11 posted on 08/14/2024 7:08:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Fire Water!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_m-yxNgb-Y/maxresdefault.jpg


14 posted on 08/14/2024 7:13:16 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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My water is FREE.
I’ll take as much of that Nat gas as you can deliver (along with the minus $$$/ cu meter charge, of course)


15 posted on 08/14/2024 7:14:12 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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Not on a $/BTU basis it isn’t.


17 posted on 08/14/2024 7:21:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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>> Despite hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars thrown at wind and solar power, we still get less than 10% of our energy from green sources. The needle really hasn’t moved at all over the past two decades. <<

The basic argument, that natural gas has resulted in lower fuel prices, is partly true. But this sentence (above) is fundamentally false. As I keep telling liberals, conservatives don’t believe how economically feasible solar power is because they’ve been lied to about it for so many decades. But despite (not BECAUSE of) government intervention, solar power is sensible now.

Solar has grown ten-fold. At first, its growth merely made up for enviroweenies hampering other green technology, like hydroelectric and nuclear. But it’s now a full 5% of our electrical generation, and set to increase another ten-fold over the next decade or so, unless the Saudis manipulate a coalition of right-wing Luddites and left-wing enviroweenies to kill off storage.


18 posted on 08/14/2024 7:23:34 AM PDT by dangus
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What an absolutely stupid comparison.

You cannot compare $/0.5 gallon to $/million BTU. It’s just a coincidence that the numbers come out around the same.

The author should try $/microliter versus $/Watt-hour to see if they are similar.

I’m guessing the author isn’t an engineer nor did he study Dimensional Analysis.

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19 posted on 08/14/2024 7:26:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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Cleaner than battery power and the Communists refuse it.


20 posted on 08/14/2024 7:27:55 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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This is misleading because with bottled water much of the cost is the bottle.


21 posted on 08/14/2024 7:36:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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Coke-a-cola is more expensive than Gasoline, than Milk.

No one ever makes the price of Coke a campaign issue as they do with Gasoline... milk.

I have said for years that people are sometimes-single-issue-idiots because they will pay whatever the price for soda’s at the convience store/gas marts and whine about the gas price.


27 posted on 08/14/2024 7:53:18 AM PDT by Jumper
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Been saying this for decades.

California had it all correct thirty (or forty) years ago - the state ran on a mix of nuke, hydro and nat gas, for electric generation, heating and industry. An ideal mix to permit both very low emissions of everything, including CO2, plus economic viability.

Maybe Ontario in Canada was about the same.

The US could have done this, but the left sabotaged everything they could, not least in CA.


28 posted on 08/14/2024 7:55:55 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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The authors numbers are ridiculous but there is some truth to it:

A million BTU (MMBTU) is about 1000cuft of natural gas.

1000cuft of gas can be compressed to 12 gallons of liquid.

$2 for 12 gallons is definitely cheaper than bottled water. However that is still much more than tap water


30 posted on 08/14/2024 8:02:24 AM PDT by varyouga
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The Great Fossil Fuel Hoax. How many decades have the Globalist perpetrated this hoax? Oh, the world is going to soon run out of ‘fossil’ fuel? What a BS scam, forcing humanity to freeze to death, forcing farmers to forego fertilizing their crops and using machines to produce the food for humanity, forcing people into stupid electric vehicles. Did you hear what Trump told Elon the other day? Our energy demands will soon double as AI’s demands for energy comes on line. This planet is blest by the Good Lord with an infinite supply of carbon based energy and it doesn’t come from decaying plant and animal matter. You are not supposed to know this truth because the Globalists want to control all your daily activities - get rid of energy and they can determine if you live or die. Therefore, your gas stove has to be trashed, don’t you know, get rid of your gas furnace and freeze your ass off, your gas water heater has to go - take cold showers instead, eat crickets instead of eating beef, and eventually they will drive you into the poor house where you will own nothing and, here’s the truth - — you will not be happy at all because everything you hoped for in life will have been taken from you.


31 posted on 08/14/2024 8:03:44 AM PDT by iontheball
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