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SpaceX Reveals Raptor 3 Engine and Specifications
https://nextbigfuture.substack.com/ ^ | Aug 03, 2024 | NextBigFuture

Posted on 08/05/2024 8:06:50 PM PDT by Jonty30

SpaceX has unveiled the Raptor 3 engine, marking significant advancements in thrust, specific impulse, and mass efficiency compared to previous versions. The Raptor 3 boasts a thrust of 280 tf, a specific impulse of 350s, and an engine mass of 1525 kg. The SpaceX Raptor 3 engine has potential to exceed 300 tons of thrust in future iterations, emphasizing ongoing efforts to improve efficiency.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: raptor3; spacex
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Simplification of the design, but improving its performance is what engineering is all about.
1 posted on 08/05/2024 8:06:50 PM PDT by Jonty30
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Raptor 3 looks a bit like a Dalek. If it starts to say “Exterminate” run!


2 posted on 08/05/2024 8:11:44 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Jonty30

Iterative development seems to be the future for aerospace technologies.

CC


3 posted on 08/05/2024 8:19:28 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Jonty30

I saw an update video on YouTube that showed all three versions of the Raptor engine side by side. The improvements in versions 2 and 3 are obvious.
Musk has some geniuses working for him. I can’t wait to see it in action!


4 posted on 08/05/2024 8:21:06 PM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Jonty30

“The best part is no part.” (Musk saying)

That’s a great pic, showing the 1, 2, and 3 and the reduction in design complexity.

Still, despite its edge in areas including specific impulse over the F1 used in the Saturn V, there’s nothing like cubic inches. :^) I’m such a fuddy-duddy.


5 posted on 08/05/2024 8:27:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Jonty30

Meanwhile, Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft remains stranded at the ISS, with no definitive plan as to how NASA plans to retrieve the crew. The Starliner should be renamed S.S. Minnow.


6 posted on 08/05/2024 8:34:31 PM PDT by twister881
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To: SunkenCiv

7 posted on 08/05/2024 9:04:45 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Simplicate and make lighter


8 posted on 08/05/2024 9:25:03 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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I just love when Elon Musk discusses moving TONNAGE into orbit, and farther.

The SuperHeavy Booster can today be considered operational as a one time use booster. Very soon, it will be reusable.

Bezos, Blue Origin, and SpaceX began just a short time apart. Musk and SpaceX have revolutionized rocketry. “They” said reusing rockets was a fool’s errand. One of my favorite parts of any SpaceX launch is called the “boost back burn.” After the first stage is done, it returns and lands near the launch site. The first step after booster separation is the “boost back burn” where the rocket turns and lights its engines to return to the launch site. With some SpaceX launches (both Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy) if the trajectory demands it, some boosters land on a platform in the middle of an ocean. Wherever the boosters land, they are refurbished and used again, and again, and again. Musk and SpaceX are driving down the launch costs.

Once both SuperHeavy and Starship are fully reusable, the cost of placing TONNAGE in space will fall even more.

Meanwhile, Bezos and Blue Origin have launched Captain Kirk up and down.


9 posted on 08/05/2024 9:26:10 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Regulator

yup, when less, is more...


10 posted on 08/05/2024 9:37:32 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Isp of 350 seconds is pretty good. SSME (shuttle main engine) Isp was 366 seconds, and they cost about $40 million each, which I'm guessing is way more than the Raptor 3.
11 posted on 08/05/2024 10:24:26 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Just think of all the really magnificent accomplishments Eli could achieve if he would just implement NASA's DEI strategies... /s
Snicker...

12 posted on 08/05/2024 10:36:41 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Elon!


13 posted on 08/05/2024 10:38:35 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Chode

Commencing countdown

Engines on

Check ignition


14 posted on 08/05/2024 11:15:54 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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And may God’s love (Blast off) be with you


15 posted on 08/05/2024 11:29:21 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

I was hoping!!


16 posted on 08/05/2024 11:39:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Jonty30

36% lighter, 51% more thrust, and 100% more elegant

What’s not to like!


17 posted on 08/06/2024 1:05:40 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Chode

Imagine if that happened with:
fedgov.corrupt/demonrat/permanent/all


18 posted on 08/06/2024 2:44:54 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: Steely Tom

“Isp of 350 seconds is pretty good. SSME (shuttle main engine) Isp was 366 seconds, and they cost about $40 million each, which I’m guessing is way more than the Raptor 3.”

RS25 which is what the SSME is and what the SLS throws four away every launch are not $40 million each they are 100+ million each the government contract is is public knowledge. As for ISP the RS25 is 450 in vacuum nothing beats H2 O2 in space it’s physics. ISP is not as important as mass ratio of the stage and engine for anything other than deep space high delta V work. Elon says Raptors are in the million dollar range and should be in the $300k range in mass production. This is an engine that is lighter than the 100 million RS25 and already has more thrust and 1/100th the cost the difference from private sector profit driven work and pork belly boondoggle cannot be more clear. SLS only propose is to funnel money to Congress districts that’s it anything else is secondary.


19 posted on 08/06/2024 3:15:13 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Yes, but the one great flaw in Musk’s StarShip and booster design is their weight. The heavier they are, the less payload they can boost to orbit & the less height they can achieve.

For example, the Pentagon has some very large and heavy satellites they want to place directly into geosynchronous orbit. No way stops, no refueling. Earth to 20,000 miles high in one shot. Currently the Falcon heavy with two Falcon 9 boosters can be used. But, the planned satellites will not fit in the Falcon Heavy fairing. So the contract was awarded to Blue Origin which will go direct to orbit and have a large enough fairing ( that the rocket has not flown is beside the point ).

StarShip cannot do that because even with a far larger fairing, it has to be refueled at least once and possibly twice. All of that takes too long & is too complicated for the Pentagon.

Which to illustrate the point further, it will take some 15 prepositioned refueling ships to get to the Moon. More to return. Why is that bad? Because each of those refueling stops has to work perfectly every time. The idea is simplicity, and here, the job is unnecessarily complex.

Don’t even ask how many refueling ships need to be prepositioned to get to and from Mars.


20 posted on 08/06/2024 4:33:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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