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Using leftist language against them

Posted on 08/04/2024 8:57:40 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark

So here are a couple of ideas I thought of recently, using tactics from "Rules for Radicals" which was not meant just for leftist movements but any opposition movement:

*when talking about abortion or illegal immigration, say "every illegal immigrant should abort every pregnancy they have". The leftist would never agree to that, their only choices would be saying no, which allows you to accuse them of opposing abortion, or they will call you racist, in which case you tell them that a fetus is not a person so you cannot be racist against it.

*Removing illegal aliens is "de-colonization"

*When someone falsely says Russia invaded Ukraine for no reason, say the Russian army are "undocumented migrants" and that borders are just lines on a map and racist

*When talking about feminism or Islam, say "Islam is right about women" because if they agree then you accuse them of hating women's rights and if they disagree accuse them of being islamophobic

Feel free to add your own


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ibtz; noobvanity; putinpuffer; rulesforradicals; stupidvanity; vanity; zot
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1 posted on 08/04/2024 8:57:40 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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you can’t because as soon as you do they change it again.


2 posted on 08/04/2024 9:01:44 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: xoxox

That’s the point in a way, once they cannot use an argument they gotta make up something new but every new buzzword is more retarded than the last one


3 posted on 08/04/2024 9:05:29 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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These are similar tactics to what I use.

Nice.


4 posted on 08/04/2024 9:07:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: pigeoninthepark

I like it.


5 posted on 08/04/2024 9:08:12 PM PDT by xoxox
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I’ve stated that if the black fetus is not human, or just a clump of cells, it wouldn’t matter who slaughters the fetus.....THE KKK OR PLANNED PARENTHOOD....The reason I say this is because the “”black CEO of PP admitted Sanger and her thugs were racist...Dems and progressives support PP....Have they stopped being racist ???if not, you are the new KKK.... Alexis Johnson admitted in the new York times in the op-ed section on April 17th,2021 that Sanger was racist ANNNNND PP WAS STILL RACIST AFTER SHE DIED......BIG QUESTION .....WHEN DID PP STOP BEING RACIST???????


6 posted on 08/04/2024 9:08:35 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: pigeoninthepark

Easy enough to counter “all pregnant illegal immigrants should have abortions.”

The leftists will reply that you are depriving women of the choice to continue their pregnancies. The leftistsclaim to be pro-choice not pro-abortion.


7 posted on 08/04/2024 9:23:07 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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To: Hambone 1934

These are strong, logical arguments, but they often fall short when faced with illogical individuals.


8 posted on 08/04/2024 9:23:47 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: pigeoninthepark

“Islam is right about women.”

Counter: Islam granted women formal rights when they had none. Muslims vary in their beliefs and practices and Muslim countries vary in their laws.


9 posted on 08/04/2024 9:26:34 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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“The leftists will reply that you are depriving women of the choice to continue their pregnancies. The leftistsclaim to be pro-choice not pro-abortion.”

Ok here is a better argument: white women should not be allowed to have abortions because of their white privilege, every resource a white woman uses to have an abortion could be used by an underprivileged woman of color instead


10 posted on 08/04/2024 9:27:22 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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“Counter: Islam granted women formal rights when they had none. Muslims vary in their beliefs and practices and Muslim countries vary in their laws.”

Not a likely argument they will use because that would show division among Muslims and according to leftists all non-whites love each other


11 posted on 08/04/2024 9:28:36 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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Some Muslims are white. Leftists don’t claim all non-whites love each other.
Having differences in religious practice doesn’t mean people hate each other.

Your arguments aren’t really stumpers, and if they were stumpers, it doesn’t mean that your opponent would recognize that or be convinced by the arguments.

It’s just a way of scoring points against them, at least in your own mind. Satisfying but not productive.


12 posted on 08/04/2024 9:41:13 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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When someone falsely says Russia invaded Ukraine for no reason…

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Blew your credibility there, bozo.


13 posted on 08/04/2024 9:44:54 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: pigeoninthepark

Call them Heterophobes when they try to talk about “Gay Rights”


14 posted on 08/04/2024 9:48:37 PM PDT by Fai Mao ( The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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If women have a right to abort babies because it’s their body and they have the right to do whatever they want with it... ask them this:

If a man wants to rape a woman why is that a problem? It’s his body and he has the right to do whatever he wants to do with it.

They will say, “but that right doesn’t exist if it negatively affects someone else.”

Answer: So abortion has to be wrong since it affects, actually ends, the life of the unborn baby.


15 posted on 08/04/2024 9:52:33 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: xoxox

Waste of time talking to idiots!


16 posted on 08/04/2024 9:55:46 PM PDT by madrastex
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To: Jyotishi

“These are strong, logical arguments, but they often fall short when faced with illogical individuals.”

I know. We’re at the point where just kicking the shit out of them is more effective and feels better too. Why waste time and breath trying to reason with imbeciles when a quick kick in the teeth gets your point across.


17 posted on 08/04/2024 9:58:35 PM PDT by chuckb87
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To: pigeoninthepark

It’s a good idea, with some qualification.

Keep in mind that these tactics were used long before Alinsky, so he doesn’t really get any credit.

Also keep in mind that Alinsky did these things apart from God. When we do them, we have the Spirit of God Almighty, our Creator.


18 posted on 08/04/2024 10:03:13 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: ifinnegan

Nobody cares what loser neocons think


19 posted on 08/04/2024 10:03:50 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: madrastex

Yes, like putting lipstick 💄 on a pig 🐷.


20 posted on 08/04/2024 10:09:51 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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