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Forensic analysis suggests at least 2 weapons were fired at Trump rally
CNN ^ | 07-14-24

Posted on 07/28/2024 2:21:17 PM PDT by Marcell

Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.

CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Evan Perez, and Ryan Young contributed reporting.

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KEYWORDS: assassination; assassinationattempt; forensicanalysis; forensics; hh2; multishooters; trump; trumpshot
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To: Marcell
Shooter fired first up to 8. The LAST(final) shot was SS. The MISS(es) was local sniper.

That is definitely the official version. Sometimes it takes longer for the official version to be communicated, i.e.

magic-bullet

center tank explosion,dog training exercise spread explosive residue throughout the TWA 800 cabin

there was never a John Doe 2, the eyewitnesses were confused, not lying

videos suggesting Biden is cognitively deficient are "cheap fakes"

21 posted on 07/28/2024 2:46:10 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: AnthonySoprano

“They want to confuse you, and they have from minute one.

Tell me, what was the Assassin driving? What vehicle had bombs that he didn’t search for nor research ?

You can’t tell me for a reason.”


Best post I have read today. That sums it up.


22 posted on 07/28/2024 2:48:52 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: Marcell

Facts always change in Occupied America!


23 posted on 07/28/2024 2:49:15 PM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: Samurai_Jack

“ They can’t find the bullet that pierced trumps ear. Thats why they’re talking about shrapnel”
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Shrapnel from a bullet ricocheting off of WHAT EXACTLY?


24 posted on 07/28/2024 2:50:16 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: Marcell

What I glean from this is that Catalin Grigoras and Cole Whitecotton should never be hired to give expert testimony in a trial.


25 posted on 07/28/2024 2:50:20 PM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: cpdiii

I believe it was willful negligence designed to appear as Incompetence.

The lack of any Law Enforcement drone, be it Secret Service, Pennsylvania State Police or local City or County , is mind boggling . They can not be that inept, it was planned.

I have to wonder what, if any contingency plan the SS has to counter a First Person View aka Suicide Drone attack ? Zero ?


26 posted on 07/28/2024 2:57:35 PM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: Lizavetta

>The SS knew by the end of the day what happened, how the gunman got there, who failed to perform their duties, all of it. They’ve known for weeks.<

Hence, shooter dead, so sawey.

BTW: wonder if he left hidden message saying, if I don’t survive....


27 posted on 07/28/2024 2:57:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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To: shanover

Do you think the kid, Crooks, knew he would be killed? ... or did he think he would be able to escape


28 posted on 07/28/2024 2:58:15 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: House Atreides

there was NO SHRAPNEL. That’s a part of the LIE they keep trying to TELL. They can’t FIND the BULLET. Guess you HEARD that TOO.


29 posted on 07/28/2024 3:00:35 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Marcell

About 5 or 7 seconds after the burst I heard a shot that sounded suppressed. Right after the shot you hear a woman screaming bloody murder. I think that was the shot that took out crooks. There was a video of a woman screaming while a guy was taking video of him on the roof. Some were claiming she was yelling crooks get down from there over and over and when he was shot she was screaming even louder. Not sure what she was yelling.


30 posted on 07/28/2024 3:02:31 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Marcell

“Below is now the updated version of the same article on CNN.com”

Updated 6:16 AM EDT, Mon July 15, 2024


31 posted on 07/28/2024 3:03:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Lizavetta
The SS knew by the end of the day what happened, how the gunman got there, who failed to perform their duties, all of it. They've known for weeks.

These dribs and drabs of bits of "new" information to keep everyone on the edge of their seats is bullshit to distract from THEY KNOW RIGHT NOW who did what and who didn't do what and they're hiding it.

This is true regardless of whether or not someone believes it was an inside job. I personally think it is laziness/gross incompetence rather than a conspiracy, and they just don't want to admit it.

But the stonewalling certainly gives fuel to those who believe it was a conspiracy.

I do think there were decisions made not to give Trump more protection, that President Jill's detail was likely ridiculously large courtesy of her buddy in charge of the Secret Service.

32 posted on 07/28/2024 3:04:30 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Marcell

more importantly, what does FBI Director Wray have to say about it? </sarc>


33 posted on 07/28/2024 3:05:26 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Unintentionally discharged weapon by a newbie?”

Where have you been the last two weeks?


34 posted on 07/28/2024 3:05:39 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

“Updated 6:16 AM EDT, Mon July 15, 2024”

If you scroll down to the article you will find:

4:30 p.m. CDT, July 26, 2024
Forensic analysis suggests at least 2 weapons were fired at Trump rally
From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Avery Schmitz


35 posted on 07/28/2024 3:08:34 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: shanover

“The MISS(es) was local sniper. “

Local LE said they missed but but he hadn’t seen the body. I wonder now seeing the leg wound.


36 posted on 07/28/2024 3:11:08 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: sonova

Can I get it in rods?


37 posted on 07/28/2024 3:14:00 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: Samurai_Jack

Bingo! If 8 shell casings were found on the roof that accounts for 8 shots.

The two assassin theory is BS.

I am more concerned with how Crooks got off even one shot.

Another concern is what was his motivation? Pure hatred of Trump or was he acting on behalf of another party?


38 posted on 07/28/2024 3:14:58 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not matter how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Marcell

I’ll say it again. I care less about how many shooters there were, and MUCH MORE about how they were able to get in position to take the shots in the first place.


39 posted on 07/28/2024 3:15:26 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: sonova

Football field = 100 yards/300 feet.


40 posted on 07/28/2024 3:16:55 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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