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Forensic analysis suggests at least 2 weapons were fired at Trump rally
CNN ^ | 07-14-24

Posted on 07/28/2024 2:21:17 PM PDT by Marcell

Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.

CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Evan Perez, and Ryan Young contributed reporting.

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KEYWORDS: assassination; assassinationattempt; forensicanalysis; forensics; hh2; multishooters; trump; trumpshot
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1 posted on 07/28/2024 2:21:17 PM PDT by Marcell
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July 15 expert forensic analysis:

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.


Same experts, different analysis on July 26:

Forensic analysis suggests that at least two weapons were fired at the rally — including at least one apparently fired as part of the response by law enforcement officials. The first eight shots were consistent with the alleged weapon and the final two shots were emitted by one or two “same or similar” weapon, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, a senior professional research associate at the same institution.


3 posted on 07/28/2024 2:23:33 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: Marcell

Again?


4 posted on 07/28/2024 2:24:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Marcell

110 to 120 meters is the same as 316 to 394 feet


5 posted on 07/28/2024 2:25:45 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Marcell

Kamala was never called the border czar and no expert ever said the first three shots came from weapon A and the next five shots from weapon B and the final emmitted by a possible weapon C.


6 posted on 07/28/2024 2:26:23 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: Marcell

As hard of hearing that I have gotten in my old age I could tell immediately that three guns were fired the day that our fake government almost committed suicide . It is coming for them if we don’t wrest this next election from their grasp of theft and get the right people running this country.


7 posted on 07/28/2024 2:27:09 PM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: Marcell
The SS knew by the end of the day what happened, how the gunman got there, who failed to perform their duties, all of it. They've known for weeks.

These dribs and drabs of bits of "new" information to keep everyone on the edge of their seats is bullshit to distract from THEY KNOW RIGHT NOW who did what and who didn't do what and they're hiding it.

8 posted on 07/28/2024 2:28:05 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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Shooter fired first up to 8. The LAST(final) shot was SS. The MISS(es) was local sniper. That’s my who cares analysis.


9 posted on 07/28/2024 2:28:21 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Marcell
The final shot was odd.. latent.. not associated with the other two volleys..

Unintentionally discharged weapon by a newbie?

10 posted on 07/28/2024 2:30:25 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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The farther from the event, the more the likelihood any
information is DIS-information.

IMO

I’ve head the three gun report up to a week ago, but if Trump
wasn’t hit, it would lead to other victims in a wider spread
of location being hit.

Tower shots would hit the ground much closer to the podium.

Shots from the room under the known shooter would cause a
distortion in the audible portion of the gunfire.

Then there’s the fact that nobody saw anyone descending the
water tower, and the only three acknowledge sharp-shooters
in the room under the shooter, were three guys on the SS
team.

In three months there are going to be literally thousands
of theories out there, and they well be there for a reason.

DIS-information


11 posted on 07/28/2024 2:32:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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To: Marcell

two weapons were fired.

the shooter got off 8 shots and then a sniper shot him in the eye.

They can’t find the bullet that pierced trumps ear. Thats why they’re talking about shrapnel. The local sheriff testified to 8 shell casings on the roof.

The shooter had plenty of time to squeeze off 8 shots.


12 posted on 07/28/2024 2:34:45 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Marcell

Bookmark


13 posted on 07/28/2024 2:35:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

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They want to confuse you, and they have from minute one.

Tell me, what was the Assassin driving? What vehicle had bombs that he didn’t search for nor research ?

You can’t tell me for a reason.


14 posted on 07/28/2024 2:37:47 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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To: shanover

I have bought into the theory that the KILL SHOT was fired from bleachers far off and out to the left of Trump (from Trump’s viewpoint). A location NOBODY in the media has acknowledged. Perhaps it was the job of this sniper to kill Crooks the patsy and this is why the media won’t acknowledge that position?


15 posted on 07/28/2024 2:38:10 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Marcell

This is so brain dead journalism. The kid got off his rounds first then at least two SS and or LEO snipers returned fire. So there should be at least two different sound prints three would line up with two counter snipers returning fire also with semi automatic rifles which are clearly visible in the videos of those guys on the roofs. The tinfoil retards are working up a tissy it seems.


16 posted on 07/28/2024 2:39:45 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: shanover
"Shooter fired first up to 8. The LAST(final) shot was SS. The MISS(es) was local sniper. That’s my who cares analysis."

Your analysis is correct. Thank God the shooter was not adept. I have been a shooter for over 50 years. I could have made that shot accurately with ease. In addition he selected the wrong weapon, again Thank God.

The real question is how he was allowed to get in a position to fire on President Trump. Their were no drones in the air that would have identified the shooter immediately. The secret service has drones and local law enforcement offered the use of their drones. There were no drones in the air. There is only two answers to this. 1. Incompetence beyond belief or 2. willful negligence.

17 posted on 07/28/2024 2:43:24 PM PDT by cpdiii (t)
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To: shanover
Shooter fired first up to 8. The LAST(final) shot was SS. The MISS(es) was local sniper.

That is definitely the official version. Sometimes it takes longer for the official version to be communicated, i.e. magic-bullet center tank explosion,dog training exercise spread explosive residue throughout the TWA 800 cabin there was never a John Doe 2, the eyewitnesses were confused, not lying videos suggesting Biden is cognitively deficient are "cheap fakes"

18 posted on 07/28/2024 2:44:00 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: UnwashedPeasant

110 to 120 meters is the same as 316 to 394 feet
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Mixing units is good!
How may football fields is that?


19 posted on 07/28/2024 2:45:17 PM PDT by sonova (No money? You're free to go.)
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To: Marcell

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20 posted on 07/28/2024 2:46:01 PM PDT by Swirl
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