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To: nikos1121

For an AR with a zeroed scope, a head shot at 200 yards is easy peasy. For a red dot or iron sights, a head shot at 200 years is still doable, body shots easy.


3 posted on 07/15/2024 11:10:42 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Magnum, I knew you’d know the answer.

Therefore, this points to sheer SS incompetence to let a guy get that close esp if he had a scope on his rifle.

I think then you agree, a scoped AR at 150 yards is easy even for a 10 year old.


5 posted on 07/15/2024 11:14:26 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Magnum44

It’s 137 meters an easy shot with iron sites if shooting a silhouette target. If shooting a human and it’s the first time hard to control breathing and heart rate. If a cop just climbed up a ladder to look at you I would bet adrenaline dump made it a difficult shot.


14 posted on 07/15/2024 11:19:54 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Magnum44

“For an AR with a zeroed scope, a head shot at 200 yards is easy peasy. For a red dot or iron sights, a head shot at 200 years is still doable, body shots easy.”

I would estimate MOST off the rack plain jane/ rack grade AR’s are probably w/in 2MOA (assuming decent ammo).

A 6” target at 100-125 yards, from prone. is not a hard shot. But, with nerves, breathing heavy and adrenalin, getting windage close. it is a different game. All bets are off.


18 posted on 07/15/2024 11:25:42 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: Magnum44

“For a red dot or iron sights, a head shot at 200 years is still doable, body shots easy.”

I prefer handguns to rifles for shooting. Hadn’t shot a rifle (outside of a couple of refresher training in the USAF) in 20 years when, in prep for a deployment, I did a course with an iron sighted M-16 at an Army course. Hit all my pop-up targets (human sized) at 150 & 200 yards.

Haven’t fired a rifle since. Still love shooting revolvers and have reluctantly accepted Glocks and a Springfield Hellcat as good guns.


34 posted on 07/15/2024 11:39:24 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Magnum44

Sub 400 feet hitting a target without a scope is not that difficult. Scope makes if beyond stupidly easy but iron sights is not something that requires sniper calibre skill either


67 posted on 07/15/2024 2:21:26 PM PDT by HamiltonJay (M)
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To: Magnum44

i agree. Although I’ve shot 10 out of ten in the ten ring at 300 yards with iron sights.

But that took training to do it. BTW I was using the 1903 Springfield 30-06 bolt action mfg 1943 by Remington.


70 posted on 07/15/2024 7:13:26 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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