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Bascially, the land under the Red Lobster restaurants became valuable enough to buy the chain and charge the restaurants enough in rent to basically bankrupt them and then sell the land to developers.

Although their businesses also may have contributed to that, but apparently the primary cause was that a hedge fund saw enough value in the land to eliminate the restaurants on top.

1 posted on 06/26/2024 4:06:39 PM PDT by Jonty30
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Assets tend to move to the highest value uses.


2 posted on 06/26/2024 4:08:04 PM PDT by babble-on
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Used to love Red Lobster in the late 70s and 80s. Quality was very good.

Went to one around 2004 and wow.....how the quality had deteriorated.

3 posted on 06/26/2024 4:09:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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If Red Lobster were losing money on “all you can eat shrimp” they would have probably stopped doing that pretty quickly.


5 posted on 06/26/2024 4:11:46 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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I’m sure the 400% markup didn’t help.


6 posted on 06/26/2024 4:14:29 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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“RED LOBSTER’S COLLAPSE: WAS IT ALL-YOU-CAN-EAT SHRIMP, OR PRIVATE EQUITY?”

NEITHER - it was the $15+ Minimum Wage in much of the country, plus what has become an EXPECTATION of tipping 20%.

Many here, me included, have had enough and, at a minimum, go to the few restaurants where the police aren’t called if you don’t tip (mainly fast-food).


10 posted on 06/26/2024 4:20:06 PM PDT by BobL
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In this case, what is done cannot be undone.
The loyal customers have been forced to move on and erase
Red-Lobster-ing from their thoughts.

Same thing happened to
Sizzler. Even if they reopen in certain areas, it will require a re introduction, a reinvention of sorts.
Perhaps a new logo and color scheme to really turn heads.
No Robot Only places, please. People need local jobs.


11 posted on 06/26/2024 4:20:22 PM PDT by lee martell
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Never offer all you can eat anything in the USA unless you wanna go broke !


13 posted on 06/26/2024 4:21:10 PM PDT by sushiman
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very large pocketbooks


14 posted on 06/26/2024 4:22:58 PM PDT by joshua c
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Crappy food, expensive menu, poor service and nobody fixed it is why it failed.......


17 posted on 06/26/2024 4:25:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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If Red Lobster were a viable franchise, then the stores would relocate to lower cost land and their clientele would follow them to the new location.

I’ve seen Outback Steakhouse do this in my city. Left high priced land and moved to a cheaper area.

The fact that they’re simply closing the stores tells me that they weren’t making much money at the current location.


18 posted on 06/26/2024 4:26:19 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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SO THAT’S why Red Lobster is closing down.

Now lets talk about Denny’s, Cracker-barrel, Hooters, Outback, Hardee’s, TGI Fridays, Applebee’s...

Hmmmmmmm..... Seems like there might be something going on here!


19 posted on 06/26/2024 4:26:49 PM PDT by Cold_Red_Steel
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Last time I ate there the food was below Captain D’s quality.


20 posted on 06/26/2024 4:26:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (We Are Now In A Civil War!)
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Bascially, the land under the Red Lobster restaurants became valuable enough to buy the chain and charge the restaurants enough in rent to basically bankrupt them and then sell the land to developers.

Down with capitalism!

21 posted on 06/26/2024 4:28:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Private Equity and preferred supplier deals rolled them .

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffinance.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Fprivate-equity-rolled-red-lobster-180041614.html&h=AT05lgaA6eWSMw490K9tgI8W6ATw0AY-oSLFnisHtcO6PxZifLHY7vVKbd2igvbblb2HOYi6x6IH6Z21HU3iGmoV3G-82AN9y_5GXKGuy2i6yveXF7TImHg7ynZHhaygx7E_M9hA4oyyrYk&s=1


23 posted on 06/26/2024 4:29:12 PM PDT by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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It’s because the dishwasher got a raise from $15/hr to $20/hr. So they had to close. /sarc


32 posted on 06/26/2024 4:43:41 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Probably some sort of sale leaseback took place, but we’re the restaurants all owned and operated by the company, or were there also franchise operations?

If corporately run, then the sale-leaseback makes sense. Not so much if there franchises as that would require much more effort and dollars.

Red Lobster also hasn’t done much to keep with the times. Basically the same menu for the past 20-30 years.


42 posted on 06/26/2024 5:28:39 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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[Bascially, the land under the Red Lobster restaurants became valuable enough to buy the chain and charge the restaurants enough in rent to basically bankrupt them and then sell the land to developers.
Although their businesses also may have contributed to that, but apparently the primary cause was that a hedge fund saw enough value in the land to eliminate the restaurants on top.]


Unclear they did much more than almost break even. The $1.6b from real estate sales was less than the $2.1b paid for the company. Meanwhile, a Vanguard index fund was providing an average 5% & up return without any of the angst of private equity.


43 posted on 06/26/2024 5:30:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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Wouldn’t have happened if they’d borrowed a crapton of money for stock buybacks!


47 posted on 06/26/2024 5:36:07 PM PDT by Axenolith (Here... Hold my beer and check this out...)
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Live by the scrimps, die by the scrimps.


52 posted on 06/26/2024 5:48:16 PM PDT by Yardstick
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So it wasn’t Big Shrimp after all?

I’m a little skeptical (the Shrimp King would have made a great supervillain), but something similar is happening with Sears/K-Mart and happened before that with Woolworths.


53 posted on 06/26/2024 5:52:33 PM PDT by x
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