Kremlin says any Trump peace plan for Ukraine would have to reflect reality on the ground

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The Kremlin said that any peace plan for Ukraine proposed by a possible future U.S. administration of Donald Trump would have to reflect the reality on the ground but that Russian President Vladimir Putin remained open to talks.

Reuters reported on Tuesday that two key advisers to Trump have presented him with a plan to end the war in Ukraine -- if he wins the presidential election -- that involves telling Ukraine it will only get more U.S. weapons if it enters into peace talks.

"The value of any plan lies in the nuances and in taking into account the real state of affairs on the ground," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Reuters. "We do not know what kind of plan we are talking about, or what is set out in it."

[Kazan]

I prefer to trust the U.S. in dealing with Russia

I don't the Biden regime, globalists or neocons to do ANYTING that is the best interest of the American people.

The globalist elite ARE far more of a threat to this nation and its people than Russia is.

[Kazan]

The meddling in Ukraine and in Europe and in Russia and in China and in Iran and virtually everywhere, has been ongoing since time immemorial.

We used to intervene in other nations to free them from communist and tyranny. That policy under Christian and Presidents with moral compass like Ronald Reagan.

Now, we're meddling in countries like Ukraine so our elite can get its grubby hands on the $10-12 trillion worth of natural resources there. And, so the Bidens and George Soros could get rich, which both did in Ukraine.

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The globalist elite ARE far more of a threat to this nation and its people than Russia is.

Funny, but, that's exactly what Putin and Xi would say, and the Mullahs in Iran.

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Do you agree with him that teasing NATO membership for Ukraine was an outrageous act of provocation by the Biden regime?

No one can know what Trump would say as president, so what he says now could be entirely different from what he says as president. BTW, words are not as powerful as actions, so, who knows what real actions Trump would take as president.

And, NATO membership is a deterrent against what Russia or any other aggressor country would do. The whole world should join NATO or any other treaty that guards against Russia and China and Iran and N. Korea.

[Kazan]

No one can know what Trump would say as president

Trump has promised to end the war quickly.

Donald Trump keeps his promises.

And, NATO membership is a deterrent against what Russia or any other aggressor country would do.

Russia hasn't been aggressor. Again, we promised Russia no eastward expansion of NATO and expanded NATO to its borders. Ukraine PLEDGED neutrality after the fall of Soviet Union and broke its promise.

Get this through your skull -- Ukraine will cease to exist before Russia allows it to join NATO. Russia considers a NATO military build up in Ukraine and grave threat to its national security.

And, given that Kaja Kallas and Duda have been talking about breaking Russia into six different countries, echoing a RAND study proposal, Russia has every reason to believe NATO in Ukraine is a threat to its existence.

[Kazan]

So, you don't consider those running the World Economic Forum and George Soros to be threat to the citizens of the United States and Europe?

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So, you don't consider those running the World Economic Forum and George Soros to be threat to the citizens of the United States and Europe?

I want Woros (father and son), indicted and imprisoned and/or extradited to hell. I wish the WEF to go to hell too. I don't consider Ukraine to be as evil, as those you mentioned, so, I want Ukraine to fight and boot Russia our of its territory. The Ukrainian people are the victims in this fight, no matter what kind of corrupt its leaders are or were involved in.

Learn how to separate the victims from the corrupt leaders and from the aggressors from outside.

BTW, it's not about me. Learn to attack the evil and not those that battle evil.

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Nobody can or should promise Russia anything when it comes to whatever NATO does or will do. NATO is the defense against Russia's aggressive policies. Anyone that believes anything Putin/Russia says, is hugely naive. Promises are just promises and not policies. No country should ever promise that NATO won't expand. Expansion of NATO depends on what nations want to insure that Russia wont attack or intrude into their territories. Russia's policies and history of aggression is why NATO exists. Get that clear in your head.

And,Trump can promise anything during the campaign, but, when it comes to actually governing, things can actually be different, and most of all Trump will not abandon Ukraine. Get that through your head too.

[Kazan]

NATO is the defense against Russia's aggressive policies.

That's a lie as I have proven over and over again.

It's are meddling in Ukraine, NATO expanding to Russia's borders (when we promised it wouldn't expand eastward) and the NATO military buildup in Ukraine that lead to this war.

NATO's aggression is what has the world on the brink of WW III.

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That's a lie as I have proven over and over again.

Bunch of BS! You can't prove that a huge deterrent against aggressive nations is a lie. NATO is there to prevent wars started by hostile nations, like Russia and China. Who the heck gave you you're talking points? Putin?

It's are meddling in Ukraine

That's called, foreign relationships and diplomacy. We do that with just about every country in the world. You make a very lousy student about how the world works.

NATO expanding to Russia's borders (when we promised it wouldn't expand eastward)

Yet, Russia itself at one point wanted to join NATO and was denied. And NATO expansion depends on countries WANTING to join to defend against Russia. Europe and the U.S. don't force NATO expansion, and Russia can't decide on who they will accept joining NATO. Russia cannot decide foreign policy nor defense strategies for European countries. That shouldn't be hare to understand, not even for you.

and the NATO military buildup in Ukraine that lead to this war.

Any buildup in the Ukraine or European forces, is dictated by Russia's threats and the Russian history of aggressive policies and takeovers that they executed in decades past. Luckily for the NATO and European countries that, you have nothing to do with the decisions they make.

NATO's aggression is what has the world on the brink of WW III.

The purpose for NATO is defense, and not for expanding territory nor for invasions, nor for any kind of aggression. Yet, YOUR Russia is he aggressive force that forced NATO expansion. No Russian aggression, no NATO expansion, and perhaps even no need for NATO to exist at all.

WW3 would be a certainty if Russia was allowed to carry on with its aggression and with its expansion. So, you have it the complete opposite of why NATO needed to expand.