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To: Red6
Okay, sorry I misinterpreted what you were saying.

We withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty, which has serious ramifications if Ukraine is in NATO.

Yeah, G. W. Bush is no friend of this nation either. He like his father were both all in on the One World Government run by what they perceive themselves as being, the Gods amongst men.

We continuously try to violate Montreux (but the Turks don’t let us).

Why would we do that as it guarantees safe passage during peacetime? I can't really say I am familiar with that. I know about the Montreux Convention, but not how we try to violate it. Tell me more. I'm interested.

Lloyd Austin is worthless, and on top of that he is destroying our military.

I completely agree with everything you have said. I must have had a mental lapse in how exactly you were using that word, even though I clearly see it for how it was meant. Putin was without question provoked. Not even sure why I misread why I misread what you had said. I had even gone back to the post you were relying to McGruff, and I agreed with his post, and he hadn't even said the word unprovoked.

So, perhaps that is what threw me off. But I can see you are a person who is on the right side of this argument, and that you realize what a colossal mistake it was for us to do what we did. I sincerely apologize for misreading that. Must be having a senior moment. 😋

100 posted on 06/21/2024 1:03:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Like Minsk, we are not party of this convention but what we do affects others and we are operating on the ground or in the waters of others that did sign to this.

This convention restricts / limits the number and types of vessels allowed into the Black Sea.

We want to put more warships and of greater tonnage into the Black Sea than what is allowed.

This convention is by design intended to prevent escalation, a massive naval build up in the Black Sea.

***Even though we did not sign to it, we are traveling through Turkish waters: https://turdef.com/article/west-wants-to-violate-the-montreux-convention (A Turkish Defense site)

As usual, we simply use some make belief and conveniently used moral cause to justify doing whatever we want, but the Turks aren’t buying it. In the Ukraine conflict, we tried hard to play the NATO angle, that Turkey as a fellow NATO member should let us do whatever we want.

The Turks routinely turn us around.


102 posted on 06/21/2024 1:44:20 PM PDT by Red6
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