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Politician claims pre-Roe law forced his mother to carry stillborn baby for months
Live Action News ^ | May 31, 2024 | Cassy Fiano-Chesser

Posted on 06/06/2024 10:10:15 PM PDT by Morgana

John Mannion, a New York state senator, is currently running for congressional office. And in a new campaign ad, he made an incredible claim about his mother allegedly being forced to carry a stillborn baby for two months prior to Roe v. Wade.

In the ad, titled “Mother,” Mannion spoke about a tragic stillbirth his mother experienced in the 1960s. “Before she passed away, my mother shared her most painful memory,” Mannion said in the ad. “See, before I was born, she lost her pregnancy at seven months. That was before Roe v. Wade. So, she was forced to carry the fetus for another two months and deliver a stillborn baby. It was torture. And now MAGA Republicans are trying to take us back to that. That’s why I helped pass some of the strongest abortion protections in the nation and I’ll do the same in Congress.”

No law in the country disallows the treatment of miscarriage or delivery of a stillborn (deceased) baby. An induced abortion (which is what pro-life laws restrict) intentionally kills a human being in the womb; a miscarriage or stillbirth is the accidental and unintentional death of a child in the womb.

Mannion further spoke to syracuse.com about it, saying his mother suffered three miscarriages before he was born, but that the stillbirth at seven months was the most painful. “She was upset about it, and I know it had an impact on her. It was kind of surprising to me that she would talk about her miscarriage and having to carry the fetus around for two months,” he said. “She was not allowed to deliver. And the impact of spending two months carrying around a dead fetus had to be awful. She said she suffered.”

The story is uncannily similar to one shared by Rep. Frederica Wilson, who likewise claimed a pre-Roe law prevented doctors from delivering her stillborn baby. Yet this claim is a strange one to make, considering that in both cases, the preborn baby was already deceased.

Delivering the deceased baby’s body was not then (and would not be now) considered an induced abortion under the law. In an induced abortion, the intent is to kill the preborn child. As Dr. Donna Harrison, Director of Research for the American Association of Pro-Life OBGYNs (AAPLOG), previously told Live Action News, “There is no law now, nor has there ever been any law in any of the states of the United States, which prohibits the treatment of miscarriage.”

But was not inducing delivery perhaps an indication of medical malpractice?

As the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) points out, immediate delivery is not always necessary. “The method and timing of delivery after a stillbirth depend on the gestational age at which the death occurred, maternal obstetric history (eg, previous hysterotomy), and maternal preference,” their clinical guidance says. “Although most patients desire prompt delivery, the timing of delivery is not critical; coagulopathies associated with prolonged fetal retention are uncommon.”

Essentially, though it is undoubtedly emotionally painful for a mother to know her preborn baby has died, her life may not be at immediate risk. While it’s impossible to know why labor was not induced in these cases, neither of them is an argument in favor of abortion — the intentional and direct killing of a living human being in the womb.

As Dr. Harrison said, “The laws regulating abortion only regulate the intentional killing of human beings in the womb. If a woman had a baby who had died in the womb, there was never any law which prohibited caring for her.”


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KEYWORDS: abortion; newyork; prolife; roevswade
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1 posted on 06/06/2024 10:10:15 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
It's a good thing that his mother got the only existing vaccine shot against sepsis caused by a deceased rotting fetus...

Lie like a politician.

2 posted on 06/06/2024 10:16:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Morgana

The murder of babies is a religious sacrament to these people. Americans are getting sent to prison for daring to pray anywhere near these houses of butchery.


3 posted on 06/06/2024 10:25:13 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Morgana
In an induced abortion, the intent is to kill the preborn child.

Indeed!

The expectant mothers would undoubtedly be unhappy if the embryos or fetuses were merely removed from their wombs, but without expiring. If said embryos or fetuses could then - through herculean medical efforts - be kept alive until it was possible to release them from the hospital, where their natural parents would then be legally and morally required to care for them, that would defeat the whole actual and nefarious purpose of the procedure!

Saying "My body, my choice!" conveniently distracts from their true agenda: Not having to raise the child! Escaping the responsibility of parenthood!

Regards,

4 posted on 06/06/2024 10:25:15 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Morgana

I recall Cong. Frederica Wilson, she of the sparkly cowboy hats and TDS Trump-itis. I tend to think Ms Wilson is one who stretches the truth when it makes good copy. She might be lying. As for the gentleman, it’s not impossible, but I find it rather odd that a woman would confide in her son this deeply, describing all her miscarriages one by one.
Not impossible, especially if this is a single mother.
Many single mothers I have known depend on the son more than a woman who had a current husband or man in her life.


5 posted on 06/06/2024 10:29:29 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Morgana

John Mannion is so full of crap and such an absolute liar, he isn’t fit to serve.


6 posted on 06/06/2024 10:57:23 PM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: Morgana

Liar.


7 posted on 06/06/2024 11:03:06 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Morgana

In the middle ‘60s a member of our extended family had a child die in utero.
She did indeed carry the child another month before giving birth.
At the time, the doctors told her and her husband that it was better for her health
to wait to go into labor on her own rather than induce.
I couldn’t understand it at the time and still don’t know what that medical reason could have been.


8 posted on 06/06/2024 11:41:30 PM PDT by Blueway
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To: Morgana

The abortion industry and its sycophants are currently engaged in a campaign to convince people that physicians in training cannot possibly learn gynecological procedures unless they learn how to commit abortions. This story sounds like it is part of that overall campaign.

We have to fight back. Of course, gynecologists do not have to commit murder by abortion in order to learn medical procedures. Women need to push back against this narrative. How can a woman entrust her life and health to someone who routinely kills babies for profit? Because if someone can rationalize killing innocent babies, they can rationalize killing anyone.


9 posted on 06/06/2024 11:41:35 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: Morgana
Hm, he's a (D)

Translation: he's saying his mom had an illegal abortion, couldn't go to hospital because what she did was illegal.

I have an issue about men taking on women's issues. We have women for that.

10 posted on 06/07/2024 12:40:40 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ( ~~ TRUMP is right about EVERYTHING ! ~~ )
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I have an issue about men taking on women's issues. We have women for that.

Perhaps I have misunderstood you, but: Abortion is a "men's issue" (as well as a "women's issue").

  1. Both male and female fetuses are aborted. In some instances, male fetuses are selectively aborted.
  2. Fathers are forced to grapple with the fact that their unborn children are aborted.

Regards,

11 posted on 06/07/2024 1:54:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Morgana

This politician wasn’t stillborn but he was born brain dead.


12 posted on 06/07/2024 1:59:52 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Morgana
The stillborn baby is him!! 🤓

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Limited time offer, buy the Brooklyn Bridge, get the Sunshine Skyway Free!!

13 posted on 06/07/2024 3:42:59 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: Morgana

Now I have to look up coagulopathies, because I assume the body wouldn’t keep a dead fetus in womb for 2 months. It would start decomposing and cause lots of medical problems.


14 posted on 06/07/2024 4:06:13 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Morgana; All

Check out Dr. Anthony Levatino on Google.


15 posted on 06/07/2024 4:07:40 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: kiryandil

It is possible to carry a dead fetus for weeks or months. Even to give birth to a live baby and dead twin that died months ago.

The uterus is a sterile environment and bacterial decomposition and maternal infection generally does not occur unless the amniotic membrane is damaged.


16 posted on 06/07/2024 4:23:34 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Morgana

“she was forced to carry the fetus for another two months and deliver a stillborn baby. “

Is that even possible? When someone dies, doesn’t decay begin immediately? Wouldn’t a decayed body poison the mother?


17 posted on 06/07/2024 4:30:58 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: lee martell
I find it rather odd that a woman would confide in her son this deeply, describing all her miscarriages one by one.

Maybe Mannion asked his mother why he was an only child, if she had wanted more children.

I am a married mother and my children know about the babies I lost. The babies I lost were not some private gynecological detail to make others squeamish; I was not pregnant with miscarriages; I was pregnant with babies, my children's siblings, and they died. Miscarriage is a devastating loss compounded by the loneliness and secrecy surrounding it.

18 posted on 06/07/2024 4:37:08 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

Thank you for explaining. My sympathies for your loss.
That’s an area I still don’t know much about.


19 posted on 06/07/2024 4:55:16 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Morgana

My sister in law had to carry her still born baby for several months after it died in the womb. It was not pre roe v Wade. I know someone else who had the same situation. I think that’s just the procedure.


20 posted on 06/07/2024 8:21:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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