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I used to like Evs, but if you want to ruin something; have government involvement. I had the hots for a Genesis Electrified GV70, very nice!

But the news reports of the $60,000 to replace an Ioniq5 battery after minor road impact. https://youtu.be/EEXieo06ta8?si=DF0xqiyTlXtm4s-n Brand new cars were totaled for scratches on the underpan!

NO WAY NO HOW!

This and many other crapy design bug, occur from massive government meddling. Quality takes time!

A cheap EV city car could work well... but BIG GOV just doubled the price on them to kiss UAW ass.

1 posted on 06/01/2024 7:19:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 06/01/2024 7:31:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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“But the news reports of the $60,000 to replace an Ioniq5 battery after minor road impact. “

What pisses me off about EVs is the way insurance companies are now REQUIRED to price-in most of their their losses on EVs to customers driving gasoline cars. It’s causing hell for people smart enough to have nothing to do with EVs.


3 posted on 06/01/2024 7:33:37 AM PDT by BobL
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“A cheap EV city car could work well... but BIG GOV just doubled the price on them to kiss UAW ass.”

The government subsidies (tx credits for cars that were only EV cars) and what has become a branch of the gpvernment - the U.S. auto industry ruined what could have been a natural evolving development of EVs, and you are right about what the 1st EVs ought to have been and maybe still ouught to be - runabouts for city living.

An EV industry starting out that way without government demands and subsidies would have had a natural evolution, in type of cars and price, from small EVs for running around city environments, to full size sedans.

Instead the government and the idustry chose to try to replace the full size ICE sedan, right away. It has been the most expensive beginning of a new industry ever. Expensive to build and expensive for the people the government wants t force into an EV.

Even the charging networks have not been a allowed a natural evolution, which would have happened on its own in cities if that is where most EVs were marketed for to start with. As the cars evolved, over likely a few decades, the charging networks, without government subsidy or demand, would have expanded out from the cities, on its own, as a good private enterprise capital investmen WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT.


4 posted on 06/01/2024 7:43:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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Ford and GM have both suspended well cancelled plans to build a couple new facilities for battery and Eevee assembly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats OK!

Canada will take up the slack with German and European investment, under the DAVOS leadership of Canada’s village idiot , Justin Trudeau.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-northvolt-ev-battery-factory-1.6980767

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/st-thomas-ev-battery-plant-volkwagen-subsidy-1.6876156

As is said frequently here in Canuckistan: Truck Fudeau!


5 posted on 06/01/2024 7:48:22 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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I used to like Evs, but if you want to ruin something; have government involvement.

Big amen!

As for the environmental impacts of EV's, I point this out every now and then. Usually it's when I'm driving our EV on a trip and I'm at a fast charger, right after another EV owner thanks me for "doing your part to save the environment" or whatever. LOL

I tell them that us EV owners and solar owners would freak out if we all saw what went into making them. I sometimes show them this graph, and point out that NASA used to put out graphs like this to.


6 posted on 06/01/2024 7:50:45 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Insurance will be the killer , have an accident in an EV and they right it off because there are so many unknowns . The EV pushers are living in a fantasy world


7 posted on 06/01/2024 8:10:45 AM PDT by butlerweave
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7.5 billion dollars gubmint spending and 7 chargers to show for it so far after 1 year. The charger program puts the Solyndra grift to shame. EVs may not be a panacea for the nation but it sure seems they may be a panacea for Democrat politicians.


8 posted on 06/01/2024 8:14:35 AM PDT by chuckee
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Listening to this guy is silly.


9 posted on 06/01/2024 8:14:36 AM PDT by glorgau
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EVs don’t do well on the secondary market - why buy a used EV when you will have to change out the used battery at a tremendous cost?


12 posted on 06/01/2024 8:18:18 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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Oversight of the government is not being applied, and so, government (specifically, government controlled by democrats), is getting away with violating the law.

Regulation does not equal mandates.

Government has the right to regulate interstate commerce, but that does not give government the power to dictate how any industry is run, and when it comes to EVs, they have gone way beyond their jurisdiction and way beyond the meaning of ‘regulate’. When government mandates, that’s equal to dictating how a company or an industry is run, and its equal to what a company or an industry produces. EVs being dictated by government is against the law, and EV charging stations from government, is against the law. In essence, government has been taking over the EV industry, and dictating to that industry is just like what a communist country would do.

Oversight of all parts of the government belongs with congress and with the courts. Neither congress nor the courts have been doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the people are being dictated to, and industry has been dictated to. Government of and by and for the people, does not mean a tyranny or a dictatorship.


15 posted on 06/01/2024 8:33:49 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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Heck of a presentation...how to get this to go national ?

no changes to their internal combustion engine vehicle plans

and what are those plans?...they've adiosed their ICE cars.
16 posted on 06/01/2024 8:35:35 AM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe)
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The Republicans could make an effective ad this fall warning people that if Biden is re-elected he will continue his push to take away their gas-powered cars. Very few people want to drive EVs and even fewer want to be forced to drive them. But I don’t expect the Republicans to make such an ad.


18 posted on 06/01/2024 8:37:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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25 posted on 06/01/2024 10:16:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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