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Proof young women are opting out of casual sex?
The Spectator ^ | 05/29/2024 | Amber Duke

Posted on 05/29/2024 8:36:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The popular dating app Bumble was forced to apologize recently when its anti-celibacy advertisement didn’t land the way that it had hoped. Bumble tried to tap into many women’s frustration with modern dating, telling women who are having trouble finding a significant other that “a vow of celibacy is not the answer.” But whoever is on Bumble’s marketing team failed to realize that many women are opting out of casual sex and hook-ups as they realize they prefer settling into a long-term partnership before they engage in a sexual relationship. Others are taking a break from dating…

The popular dating app Bumble was forced to apologize recently when its anti-celibacy advertisement didn’t land the way that it had hoped.

Bumble tried to tap into many women’s frustration with modern dating, telling women who are having trouble finding a significant other that “a vow of celibacy is not the answer.”

But whoever is on Bumble’s marketing team failed to realize that many women are opting out of casual sex and hook-ups as they realize they prefer settling into a long-term partnership before they engage in a sexual relationship. Others are taking a break from dating entirely, as they feel a deep dissatisfaction with the current landscape, which seems centered around fleeting physical attraction and short-lived connections. On TikTok, the #celibacy hashtag has had more than 195 million views and Google searches for “celibacy” were up 90 percent in January 2023.

Women let Bumble know that they did not appreciate the ads, which seemed designed to shame them for their choice to save their bodies for someone special. Bumble apologized in turn. “We made a mistake,” the company said. “Our ads referencing celibacy were an attempt to lean into a community frustrated by modern dating, and instead of bringing joy and humor, we unintentionally did the opposite.”

Some Gen-Z TikTokkers refer to the trend as going “boy sober,” and the reasons why young women are swearing off the hard stuff (apologies) are numerous. Liberal and progressive women argue that it would be irresponsible for them to engage in meaningless hook-ups when abortion restrictions and bans have made the stakes of an unwanted pregnancy much higher. (Ironically, this is exactly what pro-life activists have long encouraged women to do; practice safe sex or abstain to avoid getting pregnant in the first place, rather than terminating an unwanted pregnancy after the fact).

Other women acknowledged that they choose celibacy because they do not believe it’s empowering to give up sex to a man who does not meet some bare minimum standards. There is an important acknowledgment here that having sex with men who don’t treat you right or who don’t actually want to commit to you only engenders their bad behavior and incentivizes it. As the old saying goes, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

The backlash to Bumble’s ad doesn’t change the fact that a lot of young women are still having casual sex. The American Psychological Association found that 70 percent of sexually active 12-21 year olds reported having a casual sexual encounter in the past year. What is different, though, is that young women are starting to associate their dissatisfaction with the dating scene and negative feelings about themselves with their choice to engage in hook-up culture. According to the Institute for Family Studies, “an APA survey of 1,468 undergraduate students found that 82.6 percent reported negative mental and emotional consequences after hook-ups, including embarrassment, loss of respect and difficulties with maintaining steady relationships.” Similarly, 78 percent of women and 72 percent who engaged in uncommitted sex acts experienced regret over their actions. The Journal of Sex Research says engaging in hook-ups and the number of hook-ups are correlated with rises in depression and anxiety, which are reaching crisis levels in young people.

Louise Perry, author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution told the Guardian that many young heterosexual women “now feel as if they have to run the gauntlet of hook-up culture if they want to have any kind of sexual relationship. I think a lot of them, quite fairly, would rather not have any sexual relationship at all.”

Women no longer buy the feminist lie that casual sex is “empowering” or gives them some special kind of agency over their own body. They are able to differentiate between “intimacy” and “sex.” And they don’t want to be with men who only desire them for what they can offer physically.

Of course, the rise of celibacy among young people is not all good. It is certainly better from a mental and physical health perspective to avoid unsatisfying sexual encounters that lack any real long-term connection. But some researchers believe the decline in young people having sex can be attributed to things like video games, social media and pornography. So while some people are choosing be voluntarily celibate, others are not having sex because they are simply unable to make real personal connections in a world gone digital. This comes with its own set of negative consequences for mental health and family formation. Young people are getting married later and later and many don’t expect to marry or have children at all. The US birth rate has cratered. None of this bodes well for society, which thrives on healthy and robust family structures.

So, what’s the answer to this problem illuminated by Bumble’s unfortunate anti-celibacy ad? Young women are right to lay off casual sex until they find the right man, but they shouldn’t give up on love entirely. Statistically, the happiest group of women are married mothers. That’s something worth staying in the game for.



TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: casualsex; dating; fornication; mansophere; mgtow; pua; redpill; relax; socialmedia; women; youngwomen
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To: ladyjane
Many men want it both ways. They want casual sex for themselves but also want to marry someone without a casual sex history. How they get to know someone like that is a mystery because many only date those who will sleep with them on the first or second date.

It's called *hypocrisy*, and many men will never see it.

Where they think this vast pool of virgin women is going to come from when they are all sleeping around with everyone they meet is a mystery.

101 posted on 05/30/2024 11:54:42 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

102 posted on 05/30/2024 11:58:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Varsity Flight
Women are responsible to preserve their beauty. AND beauty IS universal.

Men need to lead by example and preserve their looks, too.

It's a two way street. Women want to like what they are looking at as well.

103 posted on 05/30/2024 11:58:32 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: central_va

The men who think like that are few and far between.


104 posted on 05/30/2024 12:00:12 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: central_va

BTTT!!!


105 posted on 05/30/2024 12:01:30 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: fuzzylogic

I just searched youtube for “sprinkle sprinkle”. Apparently, the one video I saw was typical.

The “sprinkle sprinkle” videos all seem to feature a bunch of highly undesirable, highly made-up, high maintenance, low value women who seem to have spent a fair amount of time being a garden tool and now think the world owes them a living.


106 posted on 05/30/2024 12:05:42 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: metmom

....”a king”

The Western king asks..”why do you love me?”


107 posted on 05/30/2024 12:06:37 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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To: metmom

Can you provide some broad evidence of that? It isn’t shown in any available data I’ve seen - be it trends in video content or dating app metrics. Most guys, the average guy, can’t get a date...let alone the bottom 10%. That’s what the data says.

You may be seeing that from personal experience but it isn’t a broad trend. Quite the opposite.


108 posted on 05/30/2024 12:08:39 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: dfwgator

Right...it was choose from your local circle and don’t take too long. All those dynamics are gone.


109 posted on 05/30/2024 12:09:39 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: metmom

Have never seen this around here where we live.

Sounds like tv/movies (which we do not watch), or some kind of community culture.


110 posted on 05/30/2024 12:17:31 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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To: NorthMountain

Yep. A generation of narcissists that have been repeatedly told “you’re special, you’re worth it”. It’s astonishing.


111 posted on 05/30/2024 12:17:42 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: metmom
Where they think this vast pool of virgin women is going to come from when they are all sleeping around with everyone they meet is a mystery.

Women's hypergamy and solipcism confirmed. Women only sleep with the top 10%-20% of men; not mentioned is that they only *notice* that segment of men, so that women think ALL men are exactly like that sample. Most men (note your "bottom 10% loser" line) never get the time of day from women: studies on dating sites show that women rank 90% of men (90% of the count of men) as ",in the bottom 50%" (of attractiveness.)

112 posted on 05/30/2024 12:36:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: yldstrk
OK, here, the fact that “men” regard highly those other “men” who take advantage of women by having casual sex with no purpose other than self-gratification demonstrates a selfish, narcissistic perspective with no redeeming purpose.

What you are saying is true, but irrelevant. And you are also deliberately failing to mention that the same applies to women.

The "women" (why do you put "men" in quotation marks?) have presumably attained the age of consent, and are likewise "taking advantage" of the men for their own nefarious purposes (i.e., probably also for shallow, unredeeming reasons). I thus see no reason here to view the behavior of the women as any less selfish or less narcissistic than that of the men.

The only difference is: The men have to invest a lot more energy and other resources and/or display a lot more genetic fitness in order to get the women to "invite" them in. They might have to, e.g., acquire advanced educational credentials, be in the top 10% of annual incomes, or display extraordinary "game" (i.e., confidence, social skills, status, etc.) in order to "close the deal."

In contrast, all the women have to do is show up.

That's why a woman with a high "notch-count" has no "bragging rights."

(I never implied that "loose" men were morally more upstanding than "loose" women. I made no moral statement at all. I mentioned only that sexually successful men are envied by their peers because they are able to achieve much-needed physiological "release," whereas their peers are forced to endure many years of sexual frustration compounded by being socially ostracized in the dating market.)

Until the inevitable ravages of Father Time become apparent - sometime in their 30s - unattached women can rely on their innate secondary sexual characteristics to attract attention. Men, on the other hand, have to bust their butts to get anywhere with the ladies.

It needn't even be supposed that actual (casual) sex (which you apparently find repugnant - to each his own; I'll not debate that with you) is taking place. It could also be innocent dating. Men will still have to jump through hoops in order to be considered, while women need only show up.

Is that so difficult to understand?

Regards,

113 posted on 05/30/2024 1:13:08 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ladyjane
How they get to know someone like that is a mystery because many only date those who will sleep with them on the first or second date.

Nope, no mystery here for them. Unless they're total 'tards, they understand quite well that, when it's time to marry (if they even want to marry), they have to adopt a radically different targeting system and dating strategy. They namely have to boost their standards, while simultaneously exercising greater patience and/or entirely foregoing premarital sex.

In the case of loose women who, after a long and tumultuous "dating" history, decide that it's time to marry, they have to dramatically lower their standards.

And even then, it might not work, because they are already past their prime / are "used goods" (often with several illegitimate children in tow).

Regards,

114 posted on 05/30/2024 1:20:13 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: metmom
Some women may but there are plenty out there who would be thrilled to find out he waited for her alone.

"Objection, Your Honor! Counsel presenting facts not in evidence!"

From a woman's point of view, that is just not true.

A woman will - with a serious face - claim that she wants to be a stay-at-home mother, with three children, in (e.g.) the San Francisco Bay Area (high housing costs), with annual European vacations - but that she is not "materialistic" - even though only a high-earning man could afford her that lifestyle.

She will claim that she wants a man who has already achieved success in life - but he shouldn't be more than two years older than she, herself.

A 28-year-old woman will claim that she wants a "pure" man of about her own age - but will shun or dismiss with prejudice a somewhat awkward, socially inept suitor (and who would argue that a 30-year-old virgin man would perforce be anything else than a social outcast resembling Sheldon of "The Big Bang Theory?").

It's called making implicitly self-contradictory demands - and women are world champions in it.

Regards,

115 posted on 05/30/2024 1:33:40 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: metmom
And all the bottom 10%percent of men think they’re 10’s and deserve the top 10% of women. It’s staggering the number of loser men who think they are God’s gift to women and their sexual prowess is beyond dispute.

B.S.!

Men learn at an early age that you can't fool reality, that no one really gives a fig whether they sink or swim, that they have to look out for themselves.

Meanwhile, women are indoctrinated from an early age that they are Disney Princesses, that "they are the table," that "they are the prize," and "you go, girl!"

Society will cheerfully ignore men who go off and sit by themselves in the corner or blow their brains out. They are the expendable or sacrificial sex.

But if tax revenues start to drop, or the military can't fill its ranks, or more and more widows face social/financial hardships because their men blew their brains out, then "women most affected" and it's a national disaster.

Men have a life expectancy of 6-8 years less than women - but the PAY GAP is the big topic in the headlines.

Society is DYING because birth rates are plummeting, because women are deferring child-bearing, because they want to "self-actualize" by getting useless degrees in order to then sit in an office cubicle, but no one is saying that women have to "step up," because: Blasphemy!

Regards,

116 posted on 05/30/2024 1:46:05 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: metmom
Where they think this vast pool of virgin women is going to come from when they are all sleeping around with everyone they meet is a mystery.

No mystery: There's a NEW CROP of 'em every year - and the top 4.5% of the men - the super Chads who have finally tired of The Game - will swoop in and grab them up.

The Beta males, meanwhile, can eat dust.

Regards,

117 posted on 05/30/2024 1:48:22 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Not BS.

I’ve seen and encountered too many of them.

My own brother was one. Without going into detail, neither my sister nor I could figure out for the life of us what made him think he was so attractive to women.

Because he wasn’t.

He was my brother and I loved him, but no way would I ever consider dating someone like him, and yet the minute a woman showed even the least bit of common courtesy to him, he thought she was *interested* in him.


118 posted on 05/30/2024 6:01:04 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: yldstrk

It’s also true.


119 posted on 05/30/2024 6:16:07 PM PDT by gawatchman
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To: metmom
yet the minute a woman showed even the least bit of common courtesy to him, he thought she was *interested* in him

Because, evolutionarily speaking, there is no advantage in assuming, "Oh, she's only being polite - so just abandon all hope and continue on your way!"

Your brother didn't ardently believe that he was "God's gift to womanhood" - rather, he simply had realized (perhaps only dimly, on some subconscious level) that "shooting his shot" might prove successful, once in a thousand times.

And yes: If 999 out of a thousand women are cold and unfriendly to you, as a man, and then suddenly ONE is halfway friendly or shows "common courtesy": Yes, you're going to summon up all the courage you have and "take a stab."

And yes: Unfortunately, even then the attempt will probably not be rewarded. Even then, in most cases it will develop that this was merely an exceptionally courteous woman - and NOT one who had sensed a "spark" of true interest.

Those men throughout the history of our species who had instead averted their eyes and muttered a polite "Thank you" before going on their way eventually became evolutionary dead-ends. In contrast, those who hoped for the best - even if it was apparent to all bystanders and onlookers that she was not expressing romantic interest - and who attempted a "Hail Mary" would, at least 0.001% of the time, meet with success and propagate their genes.

Unless your brother - in private, chatting with you - would wax eloquently for hours on end about what a "catch" he was, I'm sticking with this explanation.

(Of course, there might indeed be a tiny, tiny percentage of loser men who are genuinely deluded - but I would suspect that even then, it's really just braggadocio - and deep down inside, they know they're hopeless losers.)

Regards,

120 posted on 05/30/2024 11:51:18 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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