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Indigenous Americans, illustrated here during a mammoth hunt, developed their diverse languages from 4 different population waves that came over from Siberia, a new study suggests.
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1 posted on 05/18/2024 10:30:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

But, but, but they say they’ve always been here.


3 posted on 05/18/2024 10:33:04 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great. Now Putin will claim that America belongs to Russia.


4 posted on 05/18/2024 10:33:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was thoughtful of Ogg and his family to leave tape recordings of their language 15,000 years ago.


5 posted on 05/18/2024 10:35:07 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: All

With each contact they threw bon-bons at each other and had drum circle competition!


6 posted on 05/18/2024 10:41:36 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Grizzly bears a relatively latecomers to North America south of Canada.

They arrived about 12-13 thousand years ago.

Grizzly bears are essentially an exotic species to North America south of Canada, and the glaciers kept them from most of Canada until about 13,000 years ago as well.

Humans were here long before the grizzly bear.

7 posted on 05/18/2024 10:41:57 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: SunkenCiv

There will be a lot more waves coming over from Siberia if Biden is reelected.


8 posted on 05/18/2024 10:47:08 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SunkenCiv

And which language did these long dead people tell this linguist about their migrations?


9 posted on 05/18/2024 10:47:45 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: SunkenCiv

Guessing again ?


10 posted on 05/18/2024 11:03:57 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: SunkenCiv

Since, most if not all, humans were wiped out in the catastrophe that killed off the megafauna, how do the “linguists” know what languages they spoke. Just ask a member of the Clovis peoples what language they spoke before they all died.


12 posted on 05/18/2024 11:14:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

Most scientific reports identify entry and settlement from northeast Asia at about 13,000 years ago plus or minus. Is there evidence for a24000 year entry?


14 posted on 05/18/2024 11:27:35 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SunkenCiv

If you’re in Siberia and end up in America, you must have lost your Bering.

And if it takes 12,000 years, the one thing you cannot be accused of is Russian.

Serious question: Since there was no writing, how can the linguists be sure that the language spoken 12,000 or 24,000 years ago bears any resemblance to today’s indigenous languages?


15 posted on 05/18/2024 11:31:13 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SunkenCiv

a cunning linguist


16 posted on 05/18/2024 11:31:47 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: SunkenCiv

18 posted on 05/18/2024 11:36:46 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Based on known genetic mutation rates, laboratory science says that the first North Americans arrived 15,000 to 18,000 years ago.

Also - from memory - there are currently no fossilized human remains in North America that date back further than the 15,000 to 18,000 year time period.

However, there are alleged human foot prints, alleged human tools and tool artifacts, and alleged cut marks on animal bones, that do date back to about 24,000 years ago.


21 posted on 05/18/2024 12:23:08 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: SunkenCiv
Further linguistic analysis indicated that people arrived in the Americas in four distinct waves. The first occurred around 24,000 years ago, when massive glaciers covered much of North America. Nichols found no unique language features, suggesting a diverse set of people and languages entered North America at that time. A second wave of people around 15,000 years ago brought languages with n-m pronouns, while a third wave 1,000 years later brought languages with simple consonants. A fourth wave around 12,000 years ago then brought complex consonants.

Now what data was analyzed to come to these conclusions? Language artifacts from people who had no written records and whose only permanent records are crude drawings?!

24 posted on 05/18/2024 12:54:33 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: SunkenCiv

A fifth wave came starting about 500 years ago, bringing languages with written histories, mathematics, literature, religion, logic, law, art, and civilization.


25 posted on 05/18/2024 12:58:03 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: SunkenCiv

A study from Berkeley is all one really needs to see to prove this is faked BS.

Now for the content, just how does Nichols know anything at all about the linguistics of 12,000 to 24,000 years ago? Did this ancient people leave some tape recordings behind? Did they find a few frozen folks in glaciers, thaw them out and interrogate them?


35 posted on 05/18/2024 2:44:36 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: SunkenCiv

“...occurred around 24,000 years ago, when massive glaciers covered much of North America...”

And then the glaciers melted, thanks to all those cars driven by the cavemen. /spit


36 posted on 05/18/2024 3:25:10 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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