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The Green Energy Wall Can't Arrive Quickly Enough
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 13 May, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 05/15/2024 3:49:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber

We are fast approaching something I have called the “Green Energy Wall.” The “Wall” consists of some combination of real-world obstacles, partly cost and partly physics, that will inevitably end the quest for emissions-free “net zero” electricity generation well before the goal of zero emissions is reached. I first identified the approaching Wall in this post in December 2021, and remarked that it was “gradually coming into focus” in this follow-up post in November 2023. Everyone who pays attention and is capable of doing basic arithmetic knows that the we are approaching this Wall, some jurisdictions much faster than others. (New York has voluntarily put itself in the front ranks.).

What we don’t know is how the hitting of the Wall will manifest itself: Widespread and frequent blackouts? Regular, enforced load-shedding brown-outs? Tripling or quadrupling of electricity prices? A political uprising as people realize that they have been duped by scammers claiming that an energy transition would be easy and cheap? Or perhaps it will be all of the above.

Meanwhile, the years pass slowly. The impossibility of the situation we are digging into becomes more and more obvious, but so far there is no obvious crisis. Will it arrive in another year, or two? Or maybe five?

Consider New York. Multiple statutes and regulations commit us to energy-transition mandates that simply will not be met. Among the fantasies are two major statutes passed in 2019, one for New York State (Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act), and the other for the City (Local Law 97); and vehicle emissions standards adopted in 2022 by New York’s Department of Environmental Conservation.

Start with those vehicle emissions standards. In 2022 the DEC adopted for New York the standards and requirements set forth in the California Air Resources Board’s “Advanced Clean Cars II” regulation. California’s regulations call for minimum percentages of vehicles sold to be “zero emissions” starting with the 2026 model year, and then rapidly scaling up to 100% “zero emissions” by the 2035 model year. Here is a chart from CARB of the percentages of vehicles sold, by model year, that are supposed to be “zero emissions.”:

EVs are not the only things that qualify as “zero emissions” (e.g., hydrogen vehicles qualify), but EVs are the only things that qualify and also exist in meaningful numbers. The 2026 model year begins around September 2025 — that is, about 16 months away. What is the current percent of vehicles sold in New York that are “zero emissions”? A piece on March 6, 2024 in the New York Times puts the percentage of electric vehicles sold in the New York “metropolitan area” in 2023 at less than 10%. The article does not give a figure for New York State as a whole, but undoubtedly the figure for the state — including rural upstate areas — is well less than the percentage in the City and suburbs. Meanwhile many sources report that EV sales have suddenly declined sharply in the first quarter of 2024. (I can’t find statistics on that broken down by state.). But even if EV sales in New York State continued to increase in the first months of this year, are they really going to somehow get to 35% of all sales within a little more than a year? And then to 43% after just one more year, and then 51% after one more year, and so on to 100% by 2035? This is completely ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous is the mandate in the CLCPA for 70% of electricity generation from “renewables” by 2030. The people in charge of implementing this mandate are completely incompetent and have no idea what they are doing. After passage of the Act in 2019, the first significant step, in 2020 and 2021, was to close the two zero-emissions nuclear reactors at Indian Point that provided about 25% of New York City’s electricity, and replace them with two brand new natural gas plants, thus substantially increasing emissions. So to date, the progress toward the so-called 70 x 30 goal has been negative.

The signature initiative to achieve the 70 x 30 goal is a plan for 9000 MW of offshore wind off the coast of Long Island. In this post on March 5 I did the simple arithmetic to calculate that, if all of that capacity actually gets built, it would at best provide about 16% of New York’s current electricity consumption — before the addition of new loads from the electrification of the vehicle fleet and of home heating. Granted, we have the large hydro plant at Niagara Falls that they count as “renewable,” plus some other hydro resources that, together with Niagara Falls, might come to 20% of consumption. So with those plus the offshore wind, perhaps we can get to 35% of consumption. (Meanwhile, the offshore wind projects keep getting canceled and delayed as the developers maneuver to get themselves increased prices.)

How are we going to get to 70% from renewables in under 6 years? They literally have no clue. Something called a “Scoping Plan” has been generated pursuant to the CLCPA. It foresees a need for something they call the “Dispatchable Emissions Free Resource.” This is something that does not currently exist, and likely will not exist during any relevant time frame.

Yet the lack of any viable replacement has not prevented New York from pledging to close its well-functioning natural gas plants. Several were scheduled for closure this year. But then, back in November, somebody noticed that there was nothing to replace the plants, so the forced retirement of four of these plants got postponed for two years. News flash: two years from now, we’re still not going to have anything to replace these plants. The same will be true four years from now, and six and eight and ten. Will they simply keep postponing the mandated closure? Perhaps this is how we avoid smashing into the Green Energy Wall.

And then we have Local Law 97, supposedly mandating all large (25,000 square feet and up) residential buildings to convert to electric heat, mostly by 2030. This will represent an increase in the demand on the grid by something in the range of 30%. This at the same time as the natural gas plants are mandated to close, to be only partially replaced by some highly irregular offshore wind that will not fully replace the gas generation, let alone begin to supply the increased demand.

Something has to give here, and it will give. It will be much for the best if this happens quickly, rather than dragging on for years and years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: greenenergy
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To: Fresh Wind

We onow that, but the hoards of low info sheep that watch CNN, ABC, msnbc, or late night talk shows for their news don’t know that, and they are the ones that do all the screaming at the sky, and breathless panicking while,they browbeat everyone they meet Into submission


41 posted on 05/15/2024 7:39:16 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: kickstart

Yep, and places like ca.ifornia have a.ready started charging more “during peak usage” times for electric, and charging 5o use electricity asked on income evidently. (Ie the richer they are, the more they are charged I guess)


42 posted on 05/15/2024 7:41:17 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: MtnClimber

Sadly I see the green energy push will unleash total misery, famine and death before people wake up to the global warming hoax. I expect wide scale blackouts with a high death toll as people, especially the elderly die of the effects of hypothermia and hyperthermia from a lack of heat or air conditioning. A few years ago a heat wave in Europe, where air conditioning is rare, claimed tens of thousands of lives primarily the elderly. The push to end diesel fuel and the direct threat of putting farmers out of business to save the climate will decrease the food supply to the point of famine. Already climate zealots are calling for reducing the population leading to ultimately policies of active or passive euthanasia of the elderly and infirm. We will descend into a green hell before hopefully people wake up.


43 posted on 05/15/2024 7:45:23 AM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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To: MtnClimber

If you want an EV to be really ‘green’ you would want it to be charged with ‘green’ electricity.

This ‘green’ electricity might come from solar panels. When do solar panels work best? They work best in the middle of the day. Where would an EV often be parked midday? In an employer parking lot.

An 200W solar panel is about 3 feet by 2 feet. A parking spot is around 150 square feet, or enough for ~25 panels, for a nameplate rating of about 5kw. An hour might give a nominal 5kwh of electricity, or about 20 miles (in theory), probably more like 12 miles in practice.

Much of the Sunbelt (southern third of the US) is quite sunny.


44 posted on 05/15/2024 7:46:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

It should also be remembered that the tiny Chinese EVs Joe Biden has tariffed need less electricity per mile of travel.


45 posted on 05/15/2024 7:50:00 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: The Great RJ

Air conditioning was rare before 1950 even in Texas and Florida.


46 posted on 05/15/2024 7:50:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: The Great RJ

“hypothermia”

Electrically heated chairs and mattresses are possible.


47 posted on 05/15/2024 7:57:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Gen.Blather

“People won’t have children if they can’t afford them.”

This is mainly due to housing affordability, which can be addressed.


48 posted on 05/15/2024 8:06:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: The Great RJ

https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/03/biden-has-let-in-almost-as-many-foreigners-illegally-as-ellis-island-did-lawfully-in-60-years/


49 posted on 05/15/2024 8:09:53 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

They keep pushing this crap here. In a place that has super abundant oil, gas, and coal we are paying over 30 cents per kwh plus a 22.50 per month connection charge.


50 posted on 05/15/2024 8:17:48 AM PDT by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: FreedomPoster

“Stop them”.

That may happen when the dangers of gaseous OZONE emitted by EVs are recognized as a health issue.


51 posted on 05/15/2024 2:03:47 PM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: Does so

“Ozone | American Lung Association” https://www.lung.org/clean-air/outdoors/what-makes-air-unhealthy/ozone


52 posted on 05/15/2024 2:05:34 PM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: Does so

Personally I’m more worried about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide than EV-generated ozone, but you’re probably right.

https://dhmo.org/


53 posted on 05/15/2024 3:14:13 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Part of the problem is that most policy makers tend to confuse words with reality.

Far too many lawmakers and regulators are educated only in law, or “public policy”, or administration, or worse (e.g., “studies”). It’s relatively easy to propose things that sound good on paper, but that doesn’t mean they are even possible in the real world of physics, engineering, existing infrastructure and human behavior.

We would be better of if more (e.g., any) of these people had backgrounds in the real world.


54 posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:42 PM PDT by powerset
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