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To: KierkegaardMAN

There’s a difference between what people term ‘evolutionists’ and those who believe that evolutionary processes may have been part of God’s plan.

Believing in a Creator God doesn’t preclude belief in evolution.


9 posted on 05/06/2024 8:52:34 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630; All

I read in a book a long time ago that, God, the Creator made mankind in His own Image and likeness, and He saw that it was good. He also made the beasts of the Earth, the birds in the air, the fowl. The creatures who crawl or slither. All of these species here have adapted or underwent an evolution to arrive at where we are today. Darwin can hypothesize all he wants, but God made us and this place and hopefully we don’t mess it up too bad.


12 posted on 05/06/2024 9:18:59 PM PDT by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: Jamestown1630

Technically you are right, but practically speaking, creation does preclude evolution.


13 posted on 05/06/2024 9:19:36 PM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: Jamestown1630
Actually it does. There is a contradiction inherent in the concept of theistic evolution. Theism involves belief in an omnipotent, omniscient creator. Evolution, as distinct from creation, involves an undirected process of change over time. That is, chance alterations rather than intelligently directed ones.

If you say the alterations were actually planned (giving only the appearance of a chance process as a facade), that puts you in the creationist camp, however unorthodox. And if you say God was unaware of all the changes happening then you are demoting Him to a non-omniscient capacity, unable to see or control all that is happening. Thus theistic evolutionists invariably must abandon either evolution, or theism, in carefully examining what they believe.

Christianity has fought, still fights, and will continue to fight science [sic] to the desperate end over evolution, because evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason Jesus’ earthly life was supposedly made necessary. Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin, and in the rubble you will find the sorry remains of the Son of God. If Jesus was not the redeemer who died for our sins, and this is what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing.’ (G. Richard Bozarth)

Almost all religions are vitally wedded to evolutionary beliefs, so they have a religious need to prop up the evolutionary story no matter what. Their religion (all variants of atheism, agnosticism, new age, Buddhism, Taoism, animism, Hinduism, pantheism and panentheism and on and on) cannot tolerate the idea of a creator, so they must fight science to the desperate end against the idea of a Lawgiver over the Laws of nature.

28 posted on 05/06/2024 10:22:37 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Jamestown1630

You contradicted yourself. Why would a God that (by definition) possesses power to create bother with an evolutionary process that his creation is hoping would disprove His existence?


34 posted on 05/06/2024 11:34:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Jamestown1630

Well said. Thank you!


51 posted on 05/07/2024 4:00:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Jamestown1630

I brought that up before... I also said maybe the Bible is our Earth’s version of events. How do we know a Creator God didn’t create numerous lifes on an infinite number of other planets and in the big scheme of things these other life forms are reaching out to other planets.

Closed minds have a hard time with that


53 posted on 05/07/2024 4:37:10 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Jamestown1630
Believing in a Creator God doesn’t preclude belief in evolution.

You are free to believe anything you want. That is a quality of how you were created.

Believing in "evolution" does not mean that you are lost. Not believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ does.

So then it comes down to this: Where do you draw the line between what God says here versus what God says there?

61 posted on 05/07/2024 5:38:39 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: Jamestown1630

The theory, as proposed by Darwin is untenable, even for the objective agnostic, much less the God fearing Christian. Do you have a non Darwinian theory of evolution on which you hang your believer’s hat?


67 posted on 05/07/2024 8:35:50 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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