BlackRock carving up Ukraine?!

'It's to conceal from the world that this has been a FAILURE' | US Colonel SLAMS Ukraine aid bill - ^ | GBNews

[BEJ]

Well, as suspected, the war in Ukraine isn't about Democracy. It is about business and appeasing investors, the same investors who are also donators to the political parties. Col Douglas MacGregor talks about BlackRock and other investors who wanted to carve up Russia & Ukraine.

[Williams]

Prigozhin admitted the shelling was a fraud. Right before Putin blew him up along with other innocent people.
What a pure S country Russia is.
What is wrong with you people who justify Russian invasions.

[Williams]

Who the F are you to accuse patriotic conservative Americans of being DNC or listening to MSM.

if you can’t support your lies better than that, don’t bother.

Stupid Russian neomarxists harassing intelligent knowledgeable Americans.

[higgmeister]

Well, there you go. The elites turn out to be the people, and the elite families thing turns out to be a myth. Still, people with money do tend to have more influence on society and counties. Reduce their influence, and the country and people suffer the consequences. Tell that to democrats and progressives and liberals and communists.

You can say that, yet embrace the elites in corrupting our government, pushing proxy wars to launder tax dollars for their own ends, and the lucre they lust for.

[adorno]

yet embrace the elites in corrupting our government, pushing proxy wars to launder tax dollars for their own ends, and the lucre they lust for

The elites are in the millions of people in the U.S. and many millions more around the world. There are some that are more elite than others, but then, the masses make the ultimate decisions. Eventually, some elites die and others take over. And many elites stop being powerful and others take over. It's the way of the world. Nothing lasts forever and the powerful have to always be on-guard for the lower elites who want what they have.

With the people not liking the elites too much, many of the elites will always be leery of the power they hold. It's not always to be the elite or the powerful. The rich and super-rich can pass on their wealth to those they leave behind, and those that take over might or wont want the kind of influence that their elders left for them. Thus, like I said, nothing is forever, and that includes the elite organizations that many think control the world. If people know about the elites, it means that the elites need to always be looking over their shoulders.

Elite power is not forever and civil wars and revolutions tend to take care of evening things out. The Iranian elites have to act brutally against those that want them out and dead, but eventually, they will be out. Same with other dictators and tyrannies.

In the U.S. the powerful know they can only take things so far, or else. The power of the people is a lot stronger than that of all the elites combined. It's why we have the constitution and our bill of rights, and the first amendment and second amendment ensures that, no group or party can try to rule as dictators. When everyone in the country has freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, no elite organization can become dictatorial. Regardless, even elite organizations have to operate under the rule of law. The power-hungry cannot get away with ill-intents for too long.

People with influence will always be around, but then, we nee those people as leaders, but not as rulers with total control.

Lusting for wealth is not a sin or bad. People who seek wealth cannot do it all on their own, and when they attain their goals or riches, chances are that they brought many people to share in their quest. It's economics 101. Nothing wrong there; and nothing wrong with being ambitious and nothing wrong with seeking wealth, and nothing wrong with seeking power as long as there are controls.

[Blurb2350]

Yep. It’s the same folks who swooped in for the financial gang-rape of the new Russia when the USSR fell apart. In the intervening years they’ve honed their techniques. The rape of Ukraine will be a dream come true.

[Jumper]

You convicted yourself peddeling the DNC MSM garbage and lining the DNC-Rino nexus’ pockets.

I am the guy who sees how f’n evil this nation has become.

Nazi scum running Ukraine has infected your common sense with NATO-CON BS.

When American is allied with Nazi thugs in Kiev by choice it is a clear signal we are the evil empire.

Stay dialed to your US News sources and follow the democrats.

[Jumper]

Ukraine is erasing all cultural aspects of Russia existence. Ukraine has engaged un an antiRussian campaign which is what led, after the US Coup, to Russia intervention on behalf of people being shelled by NATO proxy forces.

Ukraine enforces no Russian language as part of their policies. Shut down churches.

Russia is going to make damn sure that Russian people in Kiev will be free from NATO & NAZI opresstion.

This is one condition the NAZI regime in Ukraine has refused, e.g., any tolerance of Russians or their culture under their US masters.

If you ever read or listen to what the diplomatic people state you would know this.

This war is about the MIC.

[Williams]

That’s the logic of Hitler.

“Protecting” the “Russian people” living in other countries.
Yeah they’ll really love the Russians when this is over.

Maybe other morons here like your talk of NATO and nazis in the same breath.

I spit on you as an enemy of THIS country, Russia boy.

[Williams]

So, how can Ukraine erase all aspects of Russian existence when there is actual RUSSIA.

But that’s ok, dopes like you can’t see that Russia is pulling its own house down around it.

Dead Russians, isolated Russia, expanded NATO, oppressive regime in Moscow, all leading to a collapse of the Russian federation.

[dfwgator]

“Protecting” the “Russian people” living in other countries.

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Does that mean they’ll come to New York to “liberate” Brighton Beach?

[Williams]

Apparently, if we’re mean to them, or don’t teach Russian in the schools.

[higgmeister]

You sure are an odd bird.   I have nothing against wealth.   I don't have any jealousy or envy of successful people.   I despise socialists who would take from those better than themselves.

I don't believe you didn't know I was referring to the true socialist elitists such as Klaus Schwab (World Economic Forum) and George Soros (The Open Society Foundations) intent on controlling humanity.   Economics 101 my azz.

[adorno]

You sure are an odd bird.

I may be odd, but not a bird. But, what kind of bird would you approve of? ;)

I have nothing against wealth.

Yet, it's mostly wealthy people with the power to change or control the world, according to that 'elite families' thing.

Soros is wealthy, and he does have influence, mostly negative influence. Only radicals listen to him, and those radicals try to effect changes in the country, but, mostly fail.

Claus Schwab? WEF? Don't know much about them, but, I was mainly referring to the 100 elite families that were being discussed.

When it comes to affiliations by the wealthy, they exist in all political stripes, including democrats and republicans and others. I don't vilify the left idiots for wanting to be wealthy, because, being poor stinks. I fault the left for most of the political strife that infests the world. Many republicans are the same, but not at the same level.

Socialists use their wealth and power to try to control people, while republicans use their wealth and power to improve the lives of people while helping themselves, though that's not always the case.

The left's thirst for power is mostly for control, and when that kind of control is achieved, the people suffer, and eventually, the leftists in control also suffer. Never fails, which is why the leftward marches in history by many different nations in the past, always ended with failed nations and failed peoples.

It's the people that stop the elitists that don't have their best interests in mind. The people need to be educated about the dangers of socialism, even when it sounds so good that many are tempted. Socialism has always led to misery and failed nations, but, the left's socialists can make things sound inviting. It's the left side of the political spectrum that needs to be eliminated. Their wealth and power leads to dangerous times. Soros would be a nobody, if his power and wealth could be rendered useless and irrelevant and powerless. Not all elites are as dangerous as the Soros(es) of the world.

[higgmeister]

Claus Schwab? WEF? Don't know much about them, but, I was mainly referring to the 100 elite families that were being discussed.

I suggest you educate yourself.

From Sam Altman to Emmanuel Macron: Who’s going to Davos 2024?

KEY POINTS

Perhaps the most heavyweight political figures set to be in attendance are China’s second-in-command Li Qiang, and French President Emmanuel Macron, who will both give special addresses.

From the U.S., attendees include Secretary of State Antony Blinken; national security advisor Jake Sullivan; and Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry.

The global elite are pulling on their snow boots and firing up their private jets for the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. The 2024 WEF, titled “Rebuilding Trust,” runs Jan. 14-19. Hanging over the event is the sharp escalation in geopolitical tensions and global trade concerns in the Middle East. Meanwhile, inflation and economic growth, the war in Ukraine, technological change and global fragmentation will all remain on the agenda.

Perhaps the most heavyweight political figures set to be in attendance are China’s second-in-command Li Qiang, and French President Emmanuel Macron, who will both give special addresses.

'100 elite families" sounds like some red herring.   The dangerous ones have names.

[adorno]

100 elite families" sounds like some red herring. The dangerous ones have names.

Sorry, but, I don't see the 100 elite families being represented at that meeting.

Meetings that include world 'leaders' is not the same as elite families. Macron, for example, has nothing elite about him, and neither does the Chinese representative, and neither does the group of U.S. representatives. There is absolutely nothing special or elite about Kerry.

The names of the players change every time that meeting occurs, so, according to who goes to that meeting, even during republican administrations, the U.S. would be sending members of 'elite families'. That's junk thinking, akin to junk science. Made up on the fly, depending on what the need or want of the moment is.

The boogeymen of the 100 elite families seems to elude your attempts to point them out. There are, no doubt, millions of 'elite people' in the world, who do not think of themselves as elite, but they still have a lot of influence on people around the world, and perhaps a lot more than the boogeymen of the so-called 'elite families. Is Trump, for example, part of the elite who want to cause damage and control the world. Are the powers that be at FOX news part of the elite 100? Is Biden part of the elite 100? I think not, but they have a lot more influence on what happens around the world than the supposed elite families.

[higgmeister]

You are the one that's talking about 100 elite families, not me.   What are they?

If you have never heard of the World Economic Forum and all they are doing to destroy our way of life...

"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" (alternatively "you'll own nothing and be happy") is a phrase originating in a 2016 video by the World Economic Forum (WEF), summarising an essay written by Danish politician Ida Auken. The phrase has been used by critics who accuse the WEF of desiring restrictions on ownership of private property. The phrase has also been used by critics of the subscription business model, and software as a service.

In 2016, Auken published an essay originally titled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better",[2] later retitled "Here's how life could change in my city by the year 2030", on the WEF's official web site. It described life in an unnamed city in which the narrator does not own a car, a house, any appliances, or any clothes, and instead relies on shared services for all of his daily needs. Auken later added an author's note to the story responding to critics, stating that it is not her "utopia or dream of the future", and that she intended for the essay to start discussions about technological development.[3]

You not knowing about this tells me all I need to know about you.

[adorno]

You not knowing about this tells me all I need to know about you.

So, now the whole discussion, according to you, must be about the WEF. Not the elite families that supposedly control all our lives. You're offering a moving target, and that's how people start losing the argument.

The WEF is as consequential as the UN; powerless and ineffective and irrelevant. While they occasionally may get through with some policy or action, they are still far away from controlling any part of our lives long term. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Heck, the KKK had more influence on America than any worldwide or nationwide organization, but, where are they now? You are likely more on point if you quote or invoke the congressional squad composed of anti-American radicals. Go for it.

[gleeaikin]

Thank you for some interesting links, as well as a fine array of historic photos of post WW2 politicians and personalities on your personal page.

[gleeaikin]

“So why then did Ukraine talk about wanting to join NATO in 2022” Not clear by what you mean by “That happened in 2015.”

What is clear is that earlier than these dates both US and Russia had signed agreements to protect Ukraine as part of a deal returning all nukes in Ukraine to Russia. By 2015 Russia/Putin had already occupied Crimea and were working on occupying Eastern Ukraine. Why wouldn’t Ukraine ask to join NAtO in 2022 when RUssia had already or was about to put a massive army into Ukraine in additon to what it had put into Crimea and was doing militarily in Eastern Ukraine starting in 2014?

It seems by these facts it was Russia/Putin that broke the most important agreement and defecated on their own word. As to who blew up Nordstream, I think a good argument can be made that Russia blew it up since it could not get a critical repair part from Canada anyway. By blowing it up Putin was able to convince some easily duped people that someone else had done something bad to them.

[everlast]

February 2015 that he would not send lethal aid to Ukraine. According to the U.S. Ambassador to Germany, Peter Wittig, Obama agreed with Merkel on the need “to give some space for those diplomatic, political efforts that were under way.”

That same month, Obama’s commitment gave Merkel the momentum to finalize the Minsk II Accords, a pact between Kyiv and Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels.