Posted on 04/23/2024 5:16:50 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner
(Apr. 23, 2024) – On Thursday, The Post & Email published an article reporting the National Archives’ displaying of an “unauthenticated” long-form birth certificate image purportedly issued by the State of Hawaii in 2011 to Barack Hussein Obama.
The revelation was made by Mike Zullo, lead investigator of a 5+-year probe into the image’s authenticity launched by then-Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff Joseph Arpaio at the request of more than 100 of his constituents and delegated to his “Cold Case Posse.”
Concerns had arisen soon after Obama, the junior first-term U.S. senator from Illinois, announced his presidential ambitions in February 2007 amid numerous reports of his birth overseas, presumably precluding him from being a “natural born Citizen,” as Article II of the Constitution requires of the president.
While such reports were not contested prior to Obama’s announcement, after launching his campaign he claimed to have been born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI. While some sources contemporaneously reported the birth occurred at Queens Hospital, others said his birthplace was the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children, then known as Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.
Six months into the investigation, Zullo reported in an initial press conference that he and his fellow team members were unable to clear the image as derived from a real, paper document. Further, Zullo declared the image a “computer-generated forgery” created “with the intent to deceive.”
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I was paying attention back in 2007 and 2008 and don’t recall The Donald’s statements about Barry the way you’ve characterized them.
Could you cite media from those years where he was talking about supposedly spending millions on info that Barry was not a US citizen, which he was going to release “any day now?”
I see that what PDJT has done is to bite off an incredibly large chunk [of the Deep State] to chew. I give him quite a bit of leeway as the battle plans necessarily must dynamically adapt to the changing (figurative) battles and skirmishes.
Kathy in OC wrote:
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If Obama’s mother was not married when she gave birth and could not pass her US citizenship to her child what citizenship would the child have? Are you saying that all the children born to unwed teenage mothers in this country are not US citizens?
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The out-of-wedlock child wouldn’t have US citizenship if born outside the US; 0 wasn’t born in the US.
If the unmarried moms were underage (example: under 19 back in 1961) and overseas, then the children wouldn’t be US citizens.
So people can be born without citizenship of any country?
Kathy in OC wrote:
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So people can be born without citizenship of any country?
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There’s no question if someone is a —natural born— citizen of a country, born there of two citizen parents, but for any other case you would be looking up what that countries law says for that particular situation.
They’re citizens of the country in which they are born or of which their parents are citizens.
The reason that Obama was presumably not a US citizen at birth is because he was born outside the US. According to the law at that time, Obama’s alleged mother was not old enough to confer US citizenship on her child if he was born outside the USA.
We know Obama was born outside the US because there is no legally-valid Hawaii BC for Obama, and HI is the only US state Obama has even claimed to have been born in. The HDOH legally confirmed this fact 3 separate times when requested to verify Obama’s Hawaii birth. The HDOH failed to send a CERTIFIED letter of verification all 3 times they were requested. What they sent was letters with the HDOH Director’s Seal, which has to have the director’s signature next to it in order to certify anything. The director’s signature was not there so the seal only APPEARS to certify while actually legally meaning nothing.
The only lawful reason for the HDOH to refuse to issue a certified letter of verification is if they CAN’T, because there is no legally-valid HI BC for the person.
So the HDOH indirectly confirmed 3 separate times that they have no legally-valid BC for Obama in Hawaii.
That being the case, anything Obama has presented to date that tries to show otherwise is obviously an already-legally-confirmed forgery.
What people have rightly noted forensically about the forgeries is already legally confirmed by the HDOH itself.
Sorry, I just googled and it was actually 2011. He spoke of sending investigators to Hawaii and that the investigators could not believe what they are finding. A spokesperson for Trump said they would release the information when the time is right. They never released the information but teased it periodically until 2016 when Trump stated that Obama was born in the US. I don’t know how to post links but you can easily google it. And as far as it being fake news from
the liberal media he did an interview with Anderson Cooper, which is on YouTube, where he confirmed that it was 100% correct that he had investigators in Hawaii looking into the birth certificate. He also says he heard from “someone”’that the birth certificate was missing. Sorry I can’t post links but YouTube video is dated 4/25/2011 if that helps.
We’re still waiting for the right time for the evidence to be brought forward. It was full-fledged treason on the part of many, many entities (including MANY federal, state, and local officials, agencies, and miitary) to put Obama into place. Until we’re ready to actually try those people for treason, the evidence has no place to go.
Trump not bringing forward the evidence yet is not because he doesn’t have it. We all already have the evidence. It’s because the country is not yet ready to receive it and do it literal justice.
Just like the country hasn’t been ready to receive and do justice to all the lawlessness within our own government and media. We don’t have justice because not enough people in our country are WILLING to have justice.
Also, the “someone” he heard from, that the BC is missing, is probably former Governor Neil Abercrombie, who told his friend Mike Evans that there is no HI BC for Obama. Evans then went on at least 2 radio shows that I have recordings from (they’re online) and told the announcers there just what Abercrombie had told him.
And as I said a couple posts ago, the HDOH has actually legally confrmed exactly that: no valid BC for Obama in hawaii.
Why did Trump make a highly teased announcement on 9/16/2016 that “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period”? Is that part of the plan? And obviously Trump has no plan to put Obama in prison for treason, right? Since he has lawyers arguing before the Supreme Court that presidents should have absolute immunity.
If there is no birth certificate, on what basis did Trump make a definitive statement that Obama was born in the US?
Trump ended up saying that Obama was born in HI because there was no way to get a fair public discussion about the evidence at that time. There still isn’t. So it rests until the proper time.
The ones who need to end up in Gitmo are the ones who executed the coup to get Obama into the White House. They are the same people doing all the lawless crap still today.
Obama isn’t President any more. Everything he does today to further the very coup that put him into power is prosecutable, even if there is Presidential immunity for what he did while illegally squatting in our White House.
On the basis that Obama had presented a fig leaf and the country wasn’t yet able to truthfully process that it was a lie. The only way any of these crimes against the USA would ever get a fair hearing was/is for Trump to get elected/re-elected. So you drop the issue until the time is right.
Also, the HDOH didn’t legally confirm that there’s no HI BC for Obama until the summer of 2012.
A bigger question is on what basis ANY of the leaders claimed Obama eligible to be POTUS - after Bob Bauer, all the state SOS’s, all the state AG’s, and all the DNC Committee heads were informed by Larry Klayman via certified mail of the HDOH’s confirmation of no legally-valid HI BC for Obama.
That’s the question we all should be asking.
Then Trump’s definitive statement that Obama was born in the US was made four years after the HDOH supposedly legally confirmed that there is no HI BC for Obama. Why did he do that? Trump was elected in 2016. Why didn’t any of these crimes against the US get a hair hearing during the Trump administration?
The "applicable law" is subject to interpretation, and what it means depends entirely on *WHO* is in a position to apply it, and what political persuasion as well as what whims they have.
You have far too much undeserving respect for "the LAW". It is cobbled together by winners of popularity contests who may not know or even understand any broader principles upon which "the LAW" is based. It is often enacted by whims, not very well thought out or written out, and often creates unintended consequences that do not serve the public interest.
And that's before it gets to the idiot, ignorant, corrupt, lying judges that often "interpret" it. What it means after they get ahold of it depends entirely on how insane, stupid, ignorant, corrupt, or biased they are.
This is how we got the 14th amendment giving us abortions and f@ggot "marriage."
"The LAW" in Hawaii allows them to create fake birth certificates as their *ORIGINAL* records. Hawaii is probably unique in this manner, and it is the consequence of so many children being born aboard ships in route to Hawaii, and therefore the laws in Hawaii are very lenient in giving someone born elsewhere a birth certificate saying they were born in Hawaii.
So even an original record from Hawaii is not all that good as proof that Obama was born there, but we don't even have that.
We've got statements and allegations from the authorities in Hawaii who want us to "take their word for it", rather than producing the actual genuine evidence.
A competent Judge would look at Hawaii's laws, realize they do not by themselves suffice to produce a document to adequately prove that Obama was even born there, and would therefore insist his status as "Natural Born Citizen" is indeterminate.
Competent Secretaries of State would refuse to allow him on the ballot until the matter had been dealt with.
But because Obama was black, everyone fell over backwards trying to make certain that he could run for President, and to hell with any duty to insure the Constitutional requirements were met.
The country was not willing to see justice done while Trump was President. They still aren’t. And the people with the power to execute justice were the very ones who committed the coup. Still are, which is why we’re stuck being a turd-world country right now, in full view of everybody.
I’ve noticed you ask a lot of questions but offer very few answers. What do you think is the reason that what is already legally acknowledged as a coup is not facing justice? Most people today think the HDOh confirmed that Obama has a valid HI BC, which is the exact opposite of the truth. Why do you think that is the case?
I have been asked very few questions, and don’t understand yours. What is the legally acknowledged coup? Do you mean the 2020 election? What does that have to do with an Obama birth certificate? Do you mean Obama taking office when some think he is not a natural born US citizen?
As to the birth certificate, I have seen nothing but conjecture and vague, unsourced rumors. Many people say it can’t be real because it is titled “Certificate of Live Birth”. That is just silly. Each state has its own form of birth certificate. I was born in California and have a Certificate of Live Birth. My son was born in California 28 years later and has a Certificate of Live Birth. My grandchildren were born in California and each has a Certificate of Live Birth. We have all used these Certificates of Live Birth to obtain passports, driver licenses, school registrations. My husband was born in Connecticut and we don’t have a copy of his birth certificate anymore, but I’m sure it is named whatever the State of Connecticut prefers to call it and that does not affect its validity.
There are other arguments about the birth certificate and they are so all over the map that they make no sense. His mother was in Seattle so he wasn’t Hawaiian so he wasn’t American. He had an Indonesian stepfather so he was adopted. Random people on the internet are experts at PFDs and Adobe so the document presented is fake.
And then we have had freepers advocating for Donald Trump Jr as president in 2028 when his mother was clearly and unequivocally not a US citizen when he was born, which totally negates the argument using Obama’s Kenyan father as evidence Obama is not a natural born US citizen.
We don’t need theories and conjecture. The Hawaii DOH in its official capacity has told us there is no valid BC for Obama in HI, when they sent 3 letters of “verification” that were not certified and thus legally useless. The only lawful reason to NOT give a certified verification is if they CAN’T because they have no valid BC there.
That’s not speculation. That is fact. We already have legal confirmation that Obama has no HI BC.
Why do most people in the country believe the opposite and even ridicule those who give the facts?
That’s what I’m asking you.
Why does the country believe a lie when we have legal confirmation of the truth?
Where do I find legal confirmation from the HI DOH that there is no valid BC for Obama in HI? Three letters of “verification “ that were not certified is not verification that they have no valid BC there, or confirmation of anything.
I don’t mean to ridicule anyone and don’t believe that I have done so. I do think we have different definitions of “facts”.
According to HI statute, the HDOH MUST give a certified letter of verification to a qualified requestor, verifying any requested information that is contained on a valid HI BC.
Why do YOU think they gave 3 non-certified letters in response to 3 separate qualified requestors - including one that they knew would be submitted in a court of law?
Why would they do that, other than the only legal reason to do it? Three times is very deliberate, this isn’t a “mistake”. Why do YOU say they did it?
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