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1 posted on 04/07/2024 10:29:46 AM PDT by MAGA2017
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MCX Spear is the civvie version, for those grabbing their keys and heading to Sportsmans Warehouse :-)


3 posted on 04/07/2024 10:33:45 AM PDT by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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Great! Mow they’ll be wanting to ban XMs


5 posted on 04/07/2024 10:38:21 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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It will fail. Sig makes expensive blocky guns that weigh twice as much as they should. It fires a weird bizarre ammo that cannot be reloaded. Its hybrid three-piece cartridge case has a steel case head and brass body connected by an aluminum locking washer to support the high chamber pressure of 80,000 psi. It will wear fast and beat guns to death.
They will buy a few for limited distribution.

But it’s designed by committee junk by the people with the Sig fetish.


6 posted on 04/07/2024 10:42:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Is it DI?


8 posted on 04/07/2024 10:44:00 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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And no bayonet...


9 posted on 04/07/2024 10:45:31 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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At Ft Knox in ‘69 I,a kid from the suburbs who had never even held a firearm,was required to qualify on the M-14 and the M-16. I don’t know if it’s typical but I scored much higher with the M-14 (2 points below Expert) than with the M-16. But I did enjoy the one time they let us put the M-16 on full automatic. And that was back when it could fire an entire clip with one pull of the trigger and not today’s 3 round bursts.


16 posted on 04/07/2024 10:54:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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Hmmm...

M16 amd variants are no longer weapons of war


17 posted on 04/07/2024 10:55:24 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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What is supposed to be the actual article, is your link the whole thing?


21 posted on 04/07/2024 11:00:59 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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As a Sig-Sauer P229 .357Sig owner, I don’t see a problem, as Sig makes extremely high quality weapons, but I don’t actually know a darned thing about this rifle. I’m surprised the contract didn’t go to one of Hunter Biden’s coke buddies though.


24 posted on 04/07/2024 11:04:26 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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In my opinion, the military would be much better off with the 6.5 Grendel and a modern update of the AK pattern rifle. Extremely effective in the field and war and much more cost effective.


27 posted on 04/07/2024 11:07:09 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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I know nothing of its replacement, but I’m not sorry to see it go. Our first firefight with that POS was a disaster, in part because three out of five jammed up. Tight. We were practically helpless, unable to return fire. It took balls of steel to come and save us. 4/30/1967


30 posted on 04/07/2024 11:12:51 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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No Body armor will be safe ,LOL


33 posted on 04/07/2024 11:14:32 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Seriously doubt that the M7 is going to become the general purpose duty weapon for the US military.

It's expensive and so is the ammunition. It's a heavy rifle and the recoil with the high pressure ammo is pretty stout. This is not the gun to be issuing to female troops on a general issue duty rifle.

As much as it pains me to confess, the M16/M4 family of rifles is arguable the best military rifle in the world.

Light weight, points better than any rifle ever made and is very accurate and very shootable .

The last 25 years have seen billions of dollars in the military and private sector invested to refine the M16 weapons system to the most accurate, reliable, effective and flexible rifle ever made.

The proliferation of a multitude of upper receiver configurations means one rife can span the range of Short barreled CQB weapons, Issue carbine, Designated Marksman Rife/Special Purpose Rifle , 22 LR rim fire inexpensive training rifle. It takes less than a minute to convert from one configuration to the another and you are good to go.

These uppers can use special purpose ammo like 300 Blackout and others to take up the slack when 5.56 X45 is not the optimum solution to the task at hand. Most are capable of using existing M16 magazines.

Most of it's competitors are a refinement or enhancement on the basic M16/M4 system and, while they may improve on the M16 is some areas, very few have been able to match, much less show an overall improvement, the overall performance of the M16/M4 weapons system.

Almost all do so at at a higher weight, more complexity, more bulk and reduced maneuverability.

Bull pup configuration rifles have many advantages over the M16/M4 and it's competitors but they are different and require much retraining over the conventional rifles and many users just prefer a conventional configuration.

The Sig M7 will most likely find a welcome place as a high power DMR/ SPR to give a squad a major upgrade in capability while the rest field M16/M4 variants using an intermediate power ammunition. The feed back from Ukraine pretty much supports this philosophy of use.

35 posted on 04/07/2024 11:18:34 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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Firing the Armyโ€™s New Rifle And Machine Gun Is A Weighty Experience - 09/22/2023, Forbes
40 posted on 04/07/2024 11:21:59 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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How will the democrats Harder to Fire Bureaucrats deliberately screw this up ?


42 posted on 04/07/2024 11:22:50 AM PDT by butlerweave
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6.8 x 51, piston driven, heavy, expensive heavy ammo.

Expensive.

With the military getting rid of strong male warriors, in favor of DEI personel, that won't be able to shoot or carry this rifle, it appears to be an expensive boondoggle.

There are piston ARs; Adams Arms, POF and they come in any caliber.

Adams Arms sells a kit for $200 that can switch any DI AR to piston.

43 posted on 04/07/2024 11:26:12 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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So much for picking up loaded 5.56 mags off the battlefield.


46 posted on 04/07/2024 11:28:29 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!โ€œ LOL...)
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The older i get the more i like my old 30 cal M-1 carbine.
Light weight and still goes pew pew pew ;o)~


70 posted on 04/07/2024 12:48:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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And still requires forward assist!


77 posted on 04/07/2024 1:27:49 PM PDT by RobertoinAL
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Here's an interesting discussion on the .277 Sig Fury compared to other calibers. https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/blog/277-sig-fury-6-8-51-guide.html
80 posted on 04/07/2024 1:47:30 PM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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