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To: PeterPrinciple; GOPJ; Liz; rlmorel; mass55th; alloysteel

I like your approach, PeterPrinciple. Your comments are the kind of talk we need to stir the fire in patriots.

So let me ask you and other FReepers to chime on a strategy to challenge our internal enemies.

Suppose you were raised in Massachusetts where for many decades Democrats always get the nod thanks to the Kennedy’s and the leftist propaganda, policies, and Fake News that have infested that State and most of the minds of my Boomer generation siblings — and their sons/daughters — who live in New England?

What do you say to them — to make them think, to question what they think — knowing full-well they will circle the wagons and shoot arrows back at you for even raising the topics of our borders, losing our freedom of speech, MSM corruption, Trump, etc?

Another thing: my Dad (a Reagan Democrat) and uncles all served honorably in World War II and would roll over in their graves to think that their sons and daughters would try to destroy this country with their insane anti-American and communist ideas?

How do you strategically ask the right questions to move people at this critical moment as our nation is in danger of being destroyed?


39 posted on 04/06/2024 2:27:32 AM PDT by poconopundit (Kayleigh the Shillelagh, I'm disappointed in you....)
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To: poconopundit

I’ve always admired your willingness to be fair. Does this sound fair to you?


Congress has 2023 testimony that Biden secreted US classified documents in 7 separate locations
—Some were 40 years old from Biden’s days as VP and Senator
—Back then, Biden was not authorized by law to have or keep classified documents
—Significantly, both as a young US Senator, and as Obama’s VP,
—Biden had none of the cogency problems exhibited to the gullible Hur
CitizenFreePress ^ | March 12, 2024 | Staff
Posted on 3/12/2024, 12:20:20 PM by Red Badger

VIDEO OF TESTIMONY AT FR LINK....................

NOTE Under “the Presidential Records Act,” only the president has the sole authority to categorize records as personal or presidential during their time in the office of the presidency.

Even though Trump as president was authorized to have classified documents by law, NBC reported the weaponized Biden DOJ is forcing President Trump to face multiple charges, including:
<><>willful retention of national defense information,
<><>false statements and representations,
<><>conspiracy to obstruct justice,
<><>withholding a document or record
<><>and corruptly concealing a document.

President Trump has pleaded not guilty to all counts.


40 posted on 04/06/2024 3:12:20 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: poconopundit; PeterPrinciple; AndyJackson

I did not appreciate the tone of the comment by AndyJackson which I found disrespectful to Christians, and felt that it implied mindless fealty to a single cause. I don’t know if it was meant that negative way, but that is how I took it.

And I agree with PeterPrinciple that the struggle ahead is a “short sword” struggle” which will require up close, dirty work, involve some successes and some failures, one step forward, and two steps back. We are going to have to tack against the wind constantly, and will see little success for any time and effort we put in.

But it is either that or surrender to the Left, and their ultimate goal of tyranny.

Donald Trump is not the end-all-to-be-all. He just isn’t. And he will have only four years in which to work even if he does make it to the White House. So he isn’t a savior.

But he is far, far better, even with his flaws (which we all have) than anyone we could seat in the White House at this time. And that is because he is contentious. He invites strife from his opponents.

Our enemies in this country would prefer to do their evil work in the dark of night, behind the scenes, in obscure back rooms, where their hands cannot be seen by the public turning the faucets that result in the steady drip-drip-drip of their corrosive work.

Donald Trump is the only one who forces them out into the open onto a field of battle.

I am one of the people on FR who live in Massachusetts, and can see closer up what the battlefield looks like before the battle.

I am not sanguine about the battle, as a result.

I don’t have the privilege (and I mean that literally-the “privilege”) of living in an area where you can fully expect others to stand by your side if you venture out to a street corner with a sign. This state is viewed as hopeless in that respect, it is that far gone.

My father, a very conservative man, knew as far back as the early Seventies that winning as a Republican was not possible. He was a plank owner in the Citizens For Limited Taxation, which is anathema to Democrats. He changed his affiliation and ran as a Democrat, and my father was no Democrat even in those days when non-Leftist Democrats still existed.

I have come to the conclusion that there are two different types of people on the Left-Liberals, and Leftists. Some Liberals may be converted to a form of non-Leftist who will consider voting for a non-Democrat or supporting various causes we consider conservative.

But it is my experience that Leftists, barring a personal catastrophe akin to what David Horowitz experienced when his co-worker with the Black Panthers was raped and murdered because she “knew too much”, can be changed. That was what it took for him to make the switch.

So, we can only expect some subset of Liberals to make that change. And we cannot expect too much, unless things get so bad that they are hit over the head to the point of insensibility.

It has been my observation in my life that getting people to change their views without that kind of jarring change described above (especially if those views they hold are glued to their mind with emotion) is one of the most difficult things to do.

Reason will not do it for most of them. Logic will not do it for most of them. They need an events that impact them personally in a major way.


41 posted on 04/06/2024 7:13:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: poconopundit
People need to educate themselves about politics. If they're too lazy to do that, I'm not going to do it for them. I learned from listening, reading, and observing. Most liberals are so far gone, it's not even worth engaging them. They have no common sense, and at this point in their life, they never will. Ignorance is a self-inflicted disease.

I'm not much of a social person, so about the only place I go is grocery shopping, and to my doctor appointments. You can usually tell the people you can strike up conversations with, and I've been very fortunate to run into like-minded people in those places to have brief conversations with.

47 posted on 04/06/2024 10:22:53 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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