Posted on 04/03/2024 1:50:18 AM PDT by RandFan
@Haosou1
Geologist, Prof. Ian Plimer, demolishes the "man-made global warming" scam, in just over a minute:
"No one has yet shown that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming, and if they did, they'd also have to show that the natural emissions—and that's 97% of the total—don't drive global warming."
"Then I look back in time through my geological eyes, and look at times in the past when we have very high carbon dioxide contents of the atmosphere, up to hundreds of times higher than now, and we see that we didn't have runaway global warming… But what we did have is six major ice ages, and there is no correlation over geological time between carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and temperature."
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
I know some love this logical argument
Ha! You use logic. True believers of the Church of the Holy Hammer and Sickle laugh at your attempts to convert them from their true religion as revealed to them by their prophet Marx!
Bfl
It may be logical, but he is WRONG!!
There is certainly a positive correlation between temperature and atmospheric CO2, which he denies.
Increasing temps “boil” CO2 out of the oceans and the dirt. Heat precedes CO2.
Our side has the truth. We don’t need to deal in lies and incorrect statements.
You missed the / s sarcasm tag 😉
What are you talking about? There is no sarcasm tag.
For those curious about a little physics and math:
CO2 only absorbs infrared light aka heat in three very narrow bands of wavelengths (think “colors”) of heat. See CO2 Absorption Spectrum; There is no Valid Mechanism for CO2 Creating Global Warming” (“Carbon dioxide absorbs infrared radiation (IR) in three narrow bands of wavelengths, which are 2.7, 4.3 and 15 micrometers (µM).”) This article also has some other good insights.
In those narrow bands, CO2 is almost completely opaque. Outside of those narrow bands, CO2 is almost completely transparent.
CO2 is only about 0.04% of our atmosphere. Why so low? Well CO2 is what plants, plankton, etc. need to “breathe.” They suck up all available CO2 and return O2. This is called the carbon cycle and is the basis for all of us carbon based life forms (i.e., pretty much everything alive on Earth).
Even at only 0.04% of our atmosphere, CO2 absorbs almost all infrared light in those bands within at most 10km. Think about it like this: You have 10,000 sheets of very thin semi-opaque paper. Each sheet absorbs 0.04% of light passing through it. That means those 10,000 sheets will absorb almost all of the light passing through them.
Note: the math is a little complicated. The first sheet absorbs 0.04% of the light leaving 99.96%. The next sheet absorbs 0.04% of the remaining 99.96% leaving about 99.92%. Next sheet absorbs about 99.96% of that, leaving 99.88% left. After about 10,000 sheets, only about 1.83% of the light is left. Basically, all the light has been absorbed (and likely converted into vibrational as opposed to radiant heat).
Consider those sheets to be about 1 meter thick. That is a gross overestimation -- it's probably more like 10 cm thick for CO2 but I am erring on the side of a ridiculously conservative estimate. That means your 10,000 sheets are a combined 10km thick. The atmosphere is about 10,000km thick. Hence, all infrared light that can be absorbed is absorbed in the first 1/1,000 (0.1%) or so of the atmosphere.
So what happens if you double the amount of CO2? Then all infrared light (heat) that can be absorbed is instead absorbed in the first 1/500 (0.2%) of the atmosphere. Net change in heat absorbed: ABSOLUTELY NONE. Net benefit: More CO2 for plants equals more plants and more O2 for us.
This is REALLY simplified but think Feepers will get the point.
Short version: manmade aka CO2 caused climate change is not just a hoax, it is not even a very good hoax for those who know basic physics. Unfortunately, the level of basic physics education in this nation is essentially nil except for real engineers, physicists, and scientists. Thanks NEA and the modern state of the “education” aka leftist indoctrination system.
PS To those who want to elaborate on the above or correct me, feel free. Please be kind and respectful. This is after all a work in progress. Just trying to make some of the physics/math understandable. I will adopt any re-writes or valid corrections if you give me permission to do so.
Very nicely done. More and more of these analogies are needed. People don’t get complex systems and are too willing to listen to the witch doctor’s explanation of natural phenomena.
It is 37 degrees and lightly snowing here in west Michigan. I am ready to give a little globull warming a try.
What really gets me is those planning to capture and bury CO2. Might as well bury $$. They can just pay me to take care of it…
Thanks.
I tried to make it understandable for lay people.
I have a couple engineering degrees with a focus on QM and physics. Find a lot of engineering and physics writing to be too dense for those not trained in the relevant science.
Later.
My favorite example is Mars where 93% pf the atmosphere is CO2. There is no evidence of a green house effect at all. Mars even has periods of frozen CO2. The atmosphere there is thin but we have a helicopter flying about so it isn’t that thin.
An informative and entertaining 3 and a half minutes.
I agree. The more the better.
Ping
Increasing temps “boil” CO2 out of the oceans and the dirt. Heat precedes CO2.
Do you not see the paradox in what you typed?
Whoops!
Someone spoke truth!
I do not think you properly understand English. There is no paradox.
Increasing temperatures occur first in the historical narrative. As the temperature rises, then the CO2 “boils” out of the oceans and the dirt.
Gases absorb or adsorb in solids.
Agree someone is going to receive a 4:00am greeting CNN will cover it.
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