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Job Boards Are Still Rife With 'Ghost Jobs'. What's the Point?
BBC ^ | AJ Dellinger, | 3/19

Posted on 03/19/2024 9:12:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Employers are posting seemingly open roles that were never meant to be filled at all.

The labour market is tightening – and it's getting harder to find a job. In the wake of the Great Resignation, which drove more job vacancies than employers could fill, workers often had their pick of open roles. Now, they have largely lost their leverage among layoffs and budget cuts, and those open positions are increasingly rare.

Still, roles do exist – or at least appear to. Job boards like LinkedIn and Indeed continue to advertise open positions, and workers are actively submitting applications. Yet despite an influx of highly qualified candidates, plenty of desirable job adverts have languished on digital platforms with an increasingly common label: "Posted 30+ days ago".

While the listings may be old, job seekers generally still assume companies are actively hiring for the roles. The truth is more complicated. Some of these are simply not-yet-removed adverts for jobs that have been filled – but some were never meant to be filled at all. These are 'ghost jobs', and they're becoming an increasingly common – and problematic – obstacle for job seekers.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: ghostjobs; jobs; labor
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1 posted on 03/19/2024 9:12:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Call the company. Ask. On a phone. Like a human. Then you’ll know.


2 posted on 03/19/2024 9:21:19 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: nickcarraway

Speaking of ghost jobs, if anybody living in the Gettysburg PA area wants to make some good money as a part time ghost tour guide, send me a private reply.


3 posted on 03/19/2024 9:22:33 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: nickcarraway
My recent work ended in February, been searching since. It is clear that far too many of the jobs listed on Dice, Indeed, Monster, and LinkedIn are there to collect resumes, keep up appearances, or for phishing, etc. I even exchanged emails with a direct recruiter about jobs on her company's job board and she admitted that many "are 'dummy reqs' to generate a pipeline".

Add to that, 99% of the responses I get are from Indians in India doing the screening.

A month and I have not gotten a single serious interview, no job prospect. Problem is that I am a non-Indian working in IT, a fat old white man.

4 posted on 03/19/2024 9:23:20 PM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: nickcarraway

In the 80s and 90s companies that did government contracts and contracts with larger corporations would list ‘ghost jobs’ in the newspapers and trade publications.

The reason was that in order to finish the Requests for Proposals, one section usually wanted to know what kind of pool of prospective job seekers was available.

The bidder basically collected resumes and vitas.

If the company won the contract, many of those jobs became available. If the company lost, layoffs and restructuring ensued.


5 posted on 03/19/2024 9:23:31 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: nickcarraway

Have to do it like back in the old days. Walk around and ask people if they’re hiring. Too many bots on the web. So you’ll have to know somebody.


6 posted on 03/19/2024 9:27:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: nickcarraway

Speaking of ghost jobs, if anybody living in the Gettysburg PA area wants to make some good money as a part time ghost tour guide, send me a private reply.


7 posted on 03/19/2024 9:29:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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Indians in the tech industry are playing a game with immigration.

They get laid off and have 60 days to find new job or go back to India.

There are a few very large Indian companies who are giving these people offer letters for work - even though no real job exists and no wage given.

It's just to provide "documentation" that the India has a job in the US so they can continue to use the work Visa - even though the "job" is completely fake.

That culture has no issue with cheating to achieve an end result.

8 posted on 03/19/2024 9:30:08 PM PDT by politicket
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To: Jeff Chandler

[hiccup]


9 posted on 03/19/2024 9:30:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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10 posted on 03/19/2024 9:31:26 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be a slave in a new Socialist America..)
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11 posted on 03/19/2024 9:44:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: TomGuy

When I graduated as a Mechanical Engineer in 1973, I went on an interview trip to a very large engineering / construction company. I still remember how cagey they were about what projects new engineers were being assigned to. I figured out quickly they had a lot of proposals out and were hiring for when they won those jobs. I was very leery of getting hired, sitting there for months twiddling my thumbs and then gettin the axe. I told them “no thanks.”

Things don’t change.


12 posted on 03/19/2024 9:46:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: politicket
Indians in the tech industry are playing a game with immigration.

That culture has no issue with cheating to achieve an end result.

Tell me about it. Even 20 years ago when I was still working as a project manager in Detroit we learned to steer clear of Indian firms as subcontractors.

During that time I worked closely with an automotive engineer who grew up in India, but was really Portuguese. (His home was in Goa, which was once a Portuguese colony.) He gave me some real insights into the mindset of South Asians, one of which was that they still want revenge against Anglos for the Raj, just as the Irish still want revenge for Cromwell.

Another is that the outdated European practice of primogeniture is still the rule there, so the first son gets the best education and inherits everything, while the second and third sons get an inferior education and emigrate.

Consequently we in America tend to see second-raters with a chip on their shoulder.

13 posted on 03/19/2024 9:50:54 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

A Japanese company put an ad in the paper looking for translators. Applicants were given a clipboard with Japanese writing and told to translate it into English. Once complete they were told “We’ll call you”. Never happened. All those free translations cost them was the ad.

It’s no wonder capitalism gets a bad wrap. Throw in Steinbeck when he wrote Grapes of Wrath. He hated the doctor in The Pearl.


14 posted on 03/19/2024 10:04:53 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: vpintheak

Huh? You think someone is going to say, “That’s a fake job posting?”

You might get told the job is filled, or they might pretend to interview you.


15 posted on 03/19/2024 10:05:37 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: MinorityRepublican

Have to do it like back in the old days. Walk around and ask people if they’re hiring.


Most places will just point you to the internet. A few even have kiosks where you can fill out the application online.


16 posted on 03/19/2024 10:12:46 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Indians in the tech industry are playing a game with immigration.

You mean they can't just get jobs in Hollywood as extras working in Westerns?
17 posted on 03/19/2024 10:20:25 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: nickcarraway

Over 20 years ago I was told about job postings that were not real and this from newspaper postings. He said they are used to see how many people would be interested.


18 posted on 03/20/2024 12:35:10 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Does the person need to have a Gettysburg address?


19 posted on 03/20/2024 1:06:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a con...companies post job listings, often with ludicrous qualification requirements at ludicrously low pay. Very few apply for the job, which the company never intended to fill in the first place. Company then goes to the government and demands more H1B visas because they tried and couldn’t find qualified employees. Company then imports foreign workers at a fraction of what Americans work for.


20 posted on 03/20/2024 2:52:43 AM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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