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US missionaries trapped in Haiti beg for help amid violent gang takeover: ‘The gunfire never stops’
NYpost.com ^ | 3/12/24 | Jeannie Taer

Posted on 03/12/2024 11:48:58 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

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To: PAR35

Yes, missionaries never know when to leave which is why so many of them suffer gruesome deaths.


41 posted on 03/12/2024 2:03:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

42 posted on 03/12/2024 2:06:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

DemonRATs want to bring that here.


43 posted on 03/12/2024 2:22:02 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

‘The gunfire never stops’

They’re going to need an ammo drop


44 posted on 03/12/2024 2:38:22 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Languager

It aint ‘missionary’ enough just to go to Portland or Baltimore.

Technically they are not missionaries any more since they threw in the towel and cried for help.


45 posted on 03/12/2024 2:50:25 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: frogjerk; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
Some of my family members did the same thing. My question is, how many people did you tell Jesus about? Isn't that what this is all about? Helping them out, yes, feeding them yes, but at some point there is something better

Yes, true conversion results in obedience to the word of God, the Scriptures and what the Spirit leads to in accordance with it. (Rm. 8:14)

The Lord fed the 5000 and all had their fill. You know He fed them well and with good food. They came back looking for more and He was basically saying that is not how this works. You need His Body and Blood to be saved.

Meaning effectual regenerating faith which thus lives by the word of God as Jesus said to do, and which was His "meat," which He taught is what eating and living by Him, the Word made flesh, meant in metaphor intensive John.

As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. (John 6:57)
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. (John 4:34)
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)

Nowhere was literally physically consuming anything the means of obtaining spiritual life within, which by penitent faith in the risen Lord Jesus who saves sinners on His account.

Thus, the Lord's supper is nowhere referred to as spiritual food anywhere interpretive of John 6 (Acts thru Rev.), instead, the word of God is what is taught as being spiritual nourishment, being that which is called "milk" and "meat" (1Co. 3:2; Heb. 5:13; 1Pt. 2:2) by which believers are "nourished" (1Tim. 4:6) and built up, and with the preaching of which being the primary active function of pastors, whereby they "fed the flock." (Acts 20:28, 32) Thanks be to God

More: The Lord's Supper: metaphorical commemoration or the consumption of the metaphysical "real" body and blood of the Lord Jesus?

46 posted on 03/12/2024 5:07:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: PGR88
“US missionaries trapped in Haiti say they are worried nobody is coming to rescue them”

My friend’s church would send a group of their high-school kids every year to a mission in Haiti for 10 days over spring-break. I called it the: “hug a black child and send back photos tour” I always wondered, why can’t the local Haitian members nail sheet metal to a roof? Or clean up the trash around the compound - which was the normal “work” the kids engaged in for a week or so. I certainly don’t doubt these kids’ (or really, their parents’) generosity or charity - but to me, it also reinforces leftist white guilt, and woke-progressive-globalist ways of thinking for these suburban American kids.

Not all missionaries are the same, for sure, while historically missionaries went where there was no gov. to help them in particular, and usually the latter opposed them, as does the gov. here against traditional evangelicals and any conservative who will not salute the flag of Sodom.

And faithful Christians are not to be looking for the gov to help them, nor teach others do to so, aside from gov. doing their duty to lawfully protect the innocent.

As for missions trips, it can be good for kids to see something a little close to how humanity lived for most of history, and also to see the product of corrupt, non-Christian government and ideology, yet insist on training the locals to do what they can.

47 posted on 03/12/2024 5:18:30 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: PGR88
I always wondered, why can’t the local Haitian members nail sheet metal to a roof? Or clean up the trash around the compound - which was the normal “work” the kids engaged in for a week or so.

Germans and Japanese did that after WWII ended. Now they have the biggest economies in the world.

48 posted on 03/12/2024 5:20:28 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; wita
US missionaries trapped in Haiti beg for help ...

Aren't these the kind of folks that need Jesus the most?

I'll bet the Mormons aren't going to leave.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Haiti

49 posted on 03/12/2024 6:00:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackdog

Say “HI!” to Kyle.


50 posted on 03/12/2024 6:00:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: William of Barsoom
SPIRITUAL mess.


Vodou rules!!


 In Haiti, Vodouists have also practiced Mormonism,[38] or been involved in Freemasonry;[39] in Cuba they have involved themselves in Santería,[40] and in the United States with modern Paganism.[41] 

51 posted on 03/12/2024 6:04:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PGR88

No flames from me!


52 posted on 03/12/2024 6:05:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wrcase

DANG!!

Just like the USA!

53 posted on 03/12/2024 6:06:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dfwgator

Haiti is on the LEFT side.


54 posted on 03/12/2024 6:06:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cgbg

We don’t use that word any more. Bad connotations.

Use ‘recycling’ instead.


55 posted on 03/12/2024 6:08:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dfwgator; SaveFerris
Meanwhile, on the other side of the island, the Dominican Republic is doing just fine.

My friend, who lives near me, was originally from the Dominican Republic. He says the DR does not want any Haitians to cross into the DR. That might be a little bit politically incorrect, but maybe they don’t care about PC.

56 posted on 03/12/2024 8:41:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: 1Old Pro
The revolution in Haiti in 1800 culminated in an orgy of killing. All of the white people were murdered. A few years later they had round two and killed all the remaining mixed race people, who had risen to run things

That's the original sin of Haiti.

57 posted on 03/13/2024 1:43:55 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: daniel1212
Nowhere was literally physically consuming anything the means of obtaining spiritual life within, which by penitent faith in the risen Lord Jesus who saves sinners on His account.

John 6

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. 52 If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. 53 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? 54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. 55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. 56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. 57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. 58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. 59 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever. 60 These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum. 61 Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it? 62 But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? 63 If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 64 It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. 65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.

58 posted on 03/13/2024 7:50:53 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: frogjerk
Which utterly fails to contradict my statement (which you left out) that,

the Lord's supper is nowhere referred to as spiritual food anywhere interpretive of John 6 (Acts thru Rev.), instead, the word of God is what is taught as being spiritual nourishment, being that which is called "milk" and "meat" (1Co. 3:2; Heb. 5:13; 1Pt. 2:2) by which believers are "nourished" (1Tim. 4:6) and built up, and with the preaching of which being the primary active function of pastors, whereby they "fed the flock." (Acts 20:28, 32) Thanks be to God

Moreover, since you invoked "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you" [Jn. 6:53] then since one obtains spiritual life within via regeneration by the Spirit of Christ (Jn. 3:7; Gal. 4:6) then you must show where souls ever obtained this spiritual life-giving regeneration by taking part in the Lord's supper, versus believing the gospel.

Such as,

There was a certain man in Cæsarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, (Acts 10:1) And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. (Acts 11:13-14) Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:... (Acts 10:34)
To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. (Acts 10:43-48)
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. (Acts 15:7-9)
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)
In whom you also, after you had heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation), in whom also believing, you were signed with the holy Spirit of promise. (Eph 1:13 [DRB])

In contrast, the Lord's supper is only for the already regenerated, in which they effectually remember the Lord's death by showing/proclaiming (1 Corinthians 11:26) the communal unity with Christ and members of His body which were bought with His sinless shed blood, (cf. Acts 20:28) by taking part in a holy communal meal, as together being "one bread." (1 Corinthians 10:17)

Likewise, to take part in dedicatory pagan religious feasts is to have "fellowship with devils." (1 Corinthians 10:21)

See 1 Co. 10,11 , by the grace of God.

59 posted on 03/13/2024 10:52:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212
I am just going by what the Lord said. It was plain, simple but a hard saying to accept. That is why many went away.

CREDO

60 posted on 03/13/2024 11:21:46 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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