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To: stanne

I believe at conception.

Give an individual sperm time, nutrition, protection. . . no human being.

But give a fertilized ovum time, nutrition protection. . . complete human being.

It’s obvious to me.

No, I don’t believe we should use the present form of IVF. I sympathize with barren couples. If you could do IVF without discarding scores of people in the embryonic phase I think that is fine. But the modern way, no.

Also, I’ve known two barren couples who were supposed to never be able to have kids. In each of these cases after ten years or so they began to conceived naturally. It is not unusual.

Finally, if you cannot have children, perhaps you should adopt. There is a waiting list for healthy babies in this country, and a waiting list for Down’s babies. But older foster-to-adopt kids need parents. Perhaps that is your calling.


4 posted on 02/24/2024 9:54:33 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

I agree with that.

A sperm is alive, but it’s not a human being.
An egg is alive, but it’s not a human being.
Put them together, and the zygote is alive, identifiably human, and a genetically unique individual.

I don’t believe in IVF.


5 posted on 02/24/2024 9:59:10 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Persevero
But older foster-to-adopt kids need parents.

They do. However trying to adopt them is harder then you think.

First off you are going to run into the fact that the state does not want you to adopt. The more children they have under their care the more money they get, the more employees they have and the more control they can wield.

To foster you are going to have to agree to any number of things that most people find morally repugnant.

Lastly the children you might possibly be able to adopt will have been deliberately damaged by the system. Sometimes to the point where they are not safe to have in the home.

15 posted on 02/24/2024 10:33:31 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Persevero

Certainly, at the moment of conception.
At that moment, no other sperm can enter the egg. At that moment, all of the new life’s traits or the blueprint for the person are in place. ALL.
The embryo that is developing is following the blueprint.
The Man and the Woman who have united to cause the life have only one duty to perform. To nurture and love the child. It is an awesome responsibility, not to be taken lightly.


32 posted on 02/24/2024 11:58:08 AM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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