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Complex legal issue: Mothers whose daughters were killed by partners demand sentencing change
ITV (UK) ^ | Feb 21 | Julie Etchingham

Posted on 02/21/2024 2:35:15 PM PST by RandFan

Every now and then, an appalling act of male violence against a woman hits the headlines.

Sarah Everard, Sabina Nessa, Julia James, Zara Aleena.

Women murdered by strangers in unprovoked attacks. They shatter families, make us all shudder and occasionally they prompt politicians to act.

But statistically such attacks, mercifully, are relatively rare.

Extreme male violence against women is much more likely to happen in the place they should feel safest: their own homes. And the perpetrators are likely to be a current or former partner.

Every week - stop and think about this - every single week, two women in England and Wales are killed in these circumstances.

And here is another fact which may shock you - which you might not be aware of.

If a woman is stabbed to death in the street by a stranger, the starting point for sentencing is 25 years.

If the same woman is stabbed to death with a kitchen knife in her own home - the starting point for sentencing is 15 years.

It’s a disparity which has prompted a growing campaign for change, and on which the government has been running a public consultation which closes on March 4.

I meet three mothers united in the worst possible circumstances. As we gather in a kitchen around cups of tea, Elaine Newborough, Julie Devey and Carole Gould tell me about their beautiful young daughters: Megan, Poppy and Ellie. Daughters with everything to live for, until each was murdered by their partners or ex-partners in the most savage knife attacks imaginable. Ellie was just 17.

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The disparity exists because of the cases where a woman who has been abused kills the man with a kitchen knife.

I wonder what Freeper legal eagles make of this one?

1 posted on 02/21/2024 2:35:15 PM PST by RandFan
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“It led to a decision to raise the sentencing level for murder with a knife taken to a scene with intent - to a minimum tariff of 25 years.”

Carrying a knife on the street shows more intent than grabbing an available knife in a home.


2 posted on 02/21/2024 2:39:49 PM PST by JSM_Liberty
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The law is trying to cater for the woman who has had enough and stabs her abuser (at home)

Easy way out of this is to just let judges decide but politicians ....


3 posted on 02/21/2024 2:43:32 PM PST by RandFan
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What these statistics do not show you is married women are the least in danger.

It is women shacking up or with short term hookups, who are in the most danger.

The article uses the euphemistic term "partner" and in "her own home" to obfuscate this fact.

4 posted on 02/21/2024 3:02:51 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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Were any one of these three women married to the man who killed them?

I doubt it.

You can bet the author of the article looked hard to find examples.

5 posted on 02/21/2024 3:06:40 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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If they’re out there looking for a partner to share their abode with... and they haven’t really applied a good measure of due diligence to their choice how can they defend that?

That’s stupidity in action. Males do the same thing!


6 posted on 02/21/2024 3:35:21 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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I would bet most were murdered by 3rd world invader savages, but the media and the women blame “men” trying to further break apart traditional Christian families by feeding animosity between men and women, when in fact the 3rd world invasion is to blame, not “men”.


7 posted on 02/21/2024 3:38:05 PM PST by imabadboy99
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My guess would be is that the in-home act is out of passion (old time law) and the outside act is an act of aggression?


8 posted on 02/21/2024 3:47:02 PM PST by shotgun
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These kinds of stories I see on true crime shows more often than not are white women killed by black husbands or boyfriends. Just sayin’.


9 posted on 02/21/2024 3:50:27 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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Exactly.


10 posted on 02/21/2024 4:04:23 PM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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In one case, the killer was one year older than the victim. Yet he was the partner of the mother? Wouldn’t be surprised he has raped the daughter many times and the daughter told him she was gonna’ snitch.
Killers were “partners” or “expartners”... that’s the ticket..bring a partner into your house with a young daughter..
Amazing...penalties are a couple of decades in prison...when the penalty should be death....boy...life is cheap in merry ol’ Englandistan.


11 posted on 02/21/2024 5:16:13 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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Don’t tell Goolag AI that!


12 posted on 02/21/2024 5:21:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: marktwain
The article uses the euphemistic term "partner" and in "her own home" to obfuscate this fact.

UK has been using "partner" to be politically correct for the past 15 years or so. Their media don't want to distinguish between married couples vs those who are just hooking up or cohabiting without marriage, or straight vs gay relationships. You only see "husband" or "wife" in rare instances, such as directly quoting someone, or when the media outlet wants to promote gay marriage (i.e. "his husband', "her wife").

13 posted on 02/21/2024 6:52:55 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

14 posted on 02/21/2024 10:04:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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