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Peru’s Wilamaya Patjxa archaeological site provided human remains showing that the diets of early people of the Andes were primarily composed of plant materials.
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1 posted on 02/02/2024 2:01:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Gathering is a lot easier than hunting.


4 posted on 02/02/2024 2:05:59 PM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: SunkenCiv

If you can kill it you can eat it


5 posted on 02/02/2024 2:06:06 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hunter-gatherers were mostly gatherers

Hunter mainly gathers this plant:


6 posted on 02/02/2024 2:06:11 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: SunkenCiv

I used to love watching “Survivorman” with Les Stroud. He made it very clear in his episodes (surviving 7 days alone) that it was very difficult to hunt and kill something, and one’s time is better spent harvesting the easy stuff.

Of course it depends on the climate and location. Trying to live off of plant life in a northern forest is a lot different than South America.


7 posted on 02/02/2024 2:07:12 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SunkenCiv

BS

“The evidence, from the remains of 24 individuals from two burial sites in the Peruvian Andes”

The Peruvian Andes are high altitude, they have very few protein/meat sources which is why they raise and keep Guinea Pigs (”cuy”) running around their places of living to eat.

This special situation of high altitude is hardly normative for humans in general of this era


8 posted on 02/02/2024 2:07:59 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: SunkenCiv

https://www.machutravelperu.com/blog/what-is-cuy


9 posted on 02/02/2024 2:09:14 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: SunkenCiv

So this one site PROVES what was happening everywhere in the world, eh?

Boy science is really creditable lately.


10 posted on 02/02/2024 2:10:08 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gather your bugs, and eat hearty!


13 posted on 02/02/2024 2:16:35 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SunkenCiv

Seems like there was a smaller variety of animules in South America compared to Africa.


15 posted on 02/02/2024 2:21:15 PM PST by fruser1
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To: SunkenCiv

What about bugs?


19 posted on 02/02/2024 2:39:56 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SunkenCiv

During the Ice Age, how much plants could you forage in an Artic-like environment?

Eskimos eat berries and a few roots, when in season, but the rest of their diet is meat and fish, because that’s all there is.

No potato plants or grass grains above the Artic circle, nor 200 miles of the ice wall in the pre-Holocene.


21 posted on 02/02/2024 2:49:23 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: SunkenCiv

This was not long after the Younger Dryas extinction event. Most the of megafauna that was previously available was probably gone.


27 posted on 02/02/2024 3:01:46 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: SunkenCiv

Isotope studies have also found evidence that ancient humans were hypercarnivores. A lot of what you eat depends on where you are and the culture you live in. Study the Inuit and you will think humans are hypercarnivores. Study India and you might think we are herbivores.

A couple sites in the Andes only prove people in that time and place depended on gathering. The real question for me is who is healthier: the hunters, the gatherers, or some diet in between?


32 posted on 02/02/2024 3:14:53 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: SunkenCiv

Some of these reports sound suspiciously junior high.
One study, one site, and they’re telling us what ancient humans were all about.
They hunted where they could — those delicious wild ruminants, those mammoths...
They gathered when the gathering was good, and it’s a great way to keep the kids busy doing something useful...
They fished, of course, anywhere they found a fishing hole, or a sea. That too is a good way to get through a day with children.
Also, they trapped, which is rather like gathering, and you can learn it from a spider.
Even with big game around, not everyone is cut out for hunting. The lighter members of the bunch, women, children, elders — weren’t sitting around waiting for dinner to be delivered.


36 posted on 02/02/2024 3:39:10 PM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: SunkenCiv

and meat...


39 posted on 02/02/2024 3:47:55 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SunkenCiv

Mostly gatherers...

That makes sense.

Any human who has ever hunted knows that 100% of the surviving animal kingdom is 100% committed to the goal of staying alive.

Fishing, spearing, and netting is probably the most efficient human method for acquiring animal protein.


40 posted on 02/02/2024 3:50:46 PM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: SunkenCiv

They extrapolate two individuals to the world and an entire era? What if these two elected to be vegetarian or were terrible hunters.


45 posted on 02/02/2024 4:03:35 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: SunkenCiv

Hunting is hard. Gathering is a lot easier. A key element is cooking, which frees up a lot of nutrition in both meat and vegetables.


46 posted on 02/02/2024 4:05:06 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: SunkenCiv; SaveFerris; PROCON; gundog

A famous hunter-gatherer was art vandalous. He was more of a hunter than a gather but his girlfriend tried to talk him into emphasizing the gathering more than the hunting.


47 posted on 02/02/2024 4:05:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gatherer = Bad Hunter.

50 posted on 02/02/2024 4:06:33 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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