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The Twilight Zone
IMDB ^ | 1959 | IMDB

Posted on 01/28/2024 12:06:31 PM PST by DallasBiff

Ordinary people find themselves in extraordinarily astounding situations, which they each try to solve in a remarkable manner.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: twilightzone; woke
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To: Getready

Serling’s radical leftism was reflected in many of those shows, a dark negativity.


21 posted on 01/28/2024 2:36:37 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: DallasBiff

The new (2019- ) Twilight Zone must be woke.

The older one wasn’t.

I sometimes did wonder, though, if people really deserved the comeuppance that Serling gave them.


22 posted on 01/28/2024 2:43:03 PM PST by x
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To: Karl Spooner

I had left TV far before that series came out, in modern America, one could be aware of a lot of TV and would see it at other people’s homes or visiting parents and such, but a lot of what formed most of you I had already dismissed.


23 posted on 01/28/2024 2:44:11 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: nopardons

Actually that one was about the internment camps. And got banned for decades. Then of course there’s the Nazi episode. Then the alien episode where everybody turns against each other, sure they’re all white, but when the chips seem down they all find a way to declare everybody else “other” and hate them. It’s all there, you just gotta be willing to see it.


24 posted on 01/28/2024 2:45:36 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: nopardons

“Rod Serling was very vocal about his liberal politics. It was not a secret to anyone. He stumped against Ronald Reagan’s ‘66 gubernatorial campaign. He frequently wrote newspaper columns and letters to the editor espousing a progressive viewpoint. And he was a vocal advocate for civil rights his entire life.
As for his television career, Serling was able to evade the censors, to a certain extent, by masking his social commentary in the trappings of science fiction. But it didn’t always work. He was constantly pissing off the sponsors, who demanded he make the show less political.”

From PBS—”He was often hounded by the conservative censors for his uncompromising attention to issues such as lynching, union organizing, and racism. Television dramas including REQUIEM FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT and A TOWN HAS TURNED TO DUST, are still considered some of the best writing ever done for television.
Rod Serling’s “The Twilight Zone”
Fed up with the difficulties of writing about serious issues on the conservative networks, Serling turned to science fiction and fantasy. Through an ingenious mixture of morality fable and fantasy writing, he was able to circumvent the timidity and conservatism of the television networks and sponsors. Self-producing a series of vignettes that placed average people in extraordinary situations, Serling could investigate the moral and political questions of his time. He found that he could address controversial subjects if they were cloaked in a veil of fantasy, saying “I found that it was all right to have Martians saying things Democrats and Republicans could never say.”


25 posted on 01/28/2024 2:46:18 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Please be specific; give examples, from as many episodes as you can, of his "radical leftism" and "dark negativity"! Don't be shy, don't keep on posting your opinion, bereft of specifics and details!

I've given you many details, from specific episodes, which you have ignored.

Also, Serling did NOT write most of the episodes, so there's that as well. You keep blaming him for all kinds of things, which, frankly, just are NOT factual!

So prove me wrong, if you are able...........

26 posted on 01/28/2024 2:47:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: DallasBiff

It was pretty brilliant


27 posted on 01/28/2024 2:47:42 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: x
Many DID deserve their bad comeuppance! The greedy, the nasty, the mean, and the EVIL ones certainly did!

And some learned valuable lesson, whilst others were rewarded. It was always a mixed bag, re who was punished and who wasn't, with some having sad, ironic endings, such as TIME ENOUGH, which always makes me very sad.

28 posted on 01/28/2024 2:50:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I’m thinking of the guy who just wanted to go back to Willoughby.


29 posted on 01/28/2024 2:53:35 PM PST by x (See post #5 above.)
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To: nopardons

I’m not interested enough in going so far in time and specific episodes of a 1950s and early 60s TV show.

I do know I was reading advertising and psychology books as a boy then and saw Serling doing what liberals do so well, make appealing entertainment that slowly works on the public.

Remember that I liked the show, but I could also pick up on the subtle negatives of it, I bet that you watch shows like that today, shows that you like and enjoy but that you also pick up on some subtle liberalism that you wish didn’t creep in there but the good parts keep you watching.


30 posted on 01/28/2024 2:54:58 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: discostu
The Takei one is about far MORE than the internment camp; his father was actually in on the bombing of Pearl Harbor! And yes, it was banned for many decades.

The Nazi one was actually very well done and NOT "WOKE" at all; nor anti-war! It was anti-Nazi!

The one about the people turning on each other was very true to life! The "blame game" is still alive and well today...only far worse!

31 posted on 01/28/2024 2:57:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

No he wasn’t. And remember the point of the Nazi one was how quickly hate turned to Nazism.

There’s a very simple math on sci-fi: if it ain’t Heinlein it’s probably liberal.


32 posted on 01/28/2024 3:01:56 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: ansel12
"RACISM"?

Which episode/s did THAT crop up in? NAME THEM!

His personal political views were his; I'm NOT talking about that! And THE TWILIGHT ZONE ( the original series ) was long gone by 1966! And I am talking ONLY about the original series!

33 posted on 01/28/2024 3:02:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: x
HUNH?

The man DOES go back in time, to that town, and is happy. So what ARE you talking about?

34 posted on 01/28/2024 3:04:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ansel12
You really are awfully full of yourself, AND also completely WRONG in your assessment of ME and my viewing habits!

I haven't watched an American T.V. show/series in many DECADES!

Yes, I still DO watch a few BRIT and one Canadian series. I've also watched two Australian and one from New Zealand series a fed years ago...all of these on PBS and/or on YouTube.

Do I/did I watch WOKE/LEFTY ones? NEVER!

And some weirdo ones I NEVER have given the time to, when I knew what was in them before hand, whilst others, that I knew nothing about, got turned off after two minutes of watching, never to be tuned into ever again. And I'm talking about BRIT shows!

35 posted on 01/28/2024 3:13:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: discostu
OH? So now Orwell is "LIBERAL", re 1984 and ANIMAL FARM?

OTOH...yes, his earlier books ARE all lefty stuff.

36 posted on 01/28/2024 3:15:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Same stupid BS from the same troll FReepers. Yesterday it was whining about Star Trek. They act like pitiful liberals complaining about things 150 years ago.

It was the 50s and 60s. “Woke” and liberal weren’t what they mean today.

What’s next? Gilligan’s Island? Leave It To Beaver?

Nothing better to do I guess


37 posted on 01/28/2024 3:15:18 PM PST by Fledermaus (Is it me, or all of a sudden have the buried trolls come out on FR like cicadas? It's all noise.)
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To: nopardons

That’s his dream. The episode actually ends up badly for him.

Maybe not, but that’s how it struck me when I saw it.


38 posted on 01/28/2024 3:17:04 PM PST by x
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To: nopardons

A PBS watcher and I might have disagreements about how much liberalism a show can have before we notice it.

I despised All in the Family, many of our less conservative members loved it and thought it was actually right-wing, in other words having a positive effect on society rather than what I saw as a negative effect.


39 posted on 01/28/2024 3:18:52 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: nopardons

I think he dies by jumping of the train and his body is put in the mortuary hearse...and the name on the back of the hearse is “Willoughby and Son...
You might be thinking about “walking distance”


40 posted on 01/28/2024 3:21:18 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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